Is Desert Ever a Good Thing for the World's Climate?

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Cutting down rainforests contributes to desertification, which negatively impacts global climate. The discussion revolves around whether natural deserts have a beneficial role in Earth's ecosystem or if they are merely symptoms of environmental degradation. Some argue that while deserts are essential for certain life forms, their existence might disrupt global weather patterns and rainfall distribution. Reclaiming deserts for forests poses challenges, such as the need for significant water resources, which could lead to ecological imbalances elsewhere. The high costs and potential long-term consequences of such projects raise concerns about sustainability and the displacement of native flora and fauna. Additionally, the role of deserts in global weather systems, including their influence on wind patterns and albedo, is highlighted as a critical factor in understanding their ecological significance. Overall, the debate emphasizes the complexity of human interventions in natural ecosystems and the need for careful consideration of long-term impacts on both local and global scales.
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"There are two types of global Earth climates: icehouse and greenhouse. Icehouse is characterized by frequent continental glaciations and severe desert environments. Greenhouse is characterized by warm climates. Both reflect the supercontinent cycle. We are now in a little greenhouse phase of an icehouse world."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercontinent_cycle
Speculative, but "state of the art" for immediate purposes.
 
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sciencenewsforstudents.org/ said:
Perhaps, Prospero thought, the minerals on the sea floor and the sodium, potassium and calcium in the air above the water were coming from the same source: tiny grains of dust. That dust might ride the winds for thousands of kilometers before finally settling down onto the ocean. If true, it would mean that 30 to 80 percent of the mud on the sea floor actually came from distant lands!
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/dust-creates-deserts-sky
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Probably most have heard of the Salton Sea, the biggest lake in California, which was created by accident in 1905:I've always had that at the back of my mind when thinking about transforming a desert.To get a forest started you basically have to pump tons of water into the dry area. There aren't rivers to divert into most deserts so you'd have to get creative. So, you build desalinization plants on the sea coast of the Sahara and pump the water through a pipe into the interior and let it flow out. You might have to do that for years until you create a wet spot suitable for starting a forest, I don't know, but I wasn't thinking in terms of waiting for the rain patterns to change or of ever being completely dependent on them.

I can't think of anyone with the money to do something like that who has any incentive to even try, but it seems it would be possible if there were such an entity.
Wasn't there someone that tried to transform the Sahara desert already? I have this nagging story in my mind that I can't remember the details of. Either he was rich or a prominent scientists, or both, in which he actually had working farms in the Sahara. I remember his efforts being cut short by one of the world wars, when I think his materials were all repurposed.
 
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JonDE said:
Wasn't there someone that tried to transform the Sahara desert already? I have this nagging story in my mind that I can't remember the details of. Either he was rich or a prominent scientists, or both, in which he actually had working farms in the Sahara. I remember his efforts being cut short by one of the world wars, when I think his materials were all repurposed.
I haven't heard of this and wasn't able to find anything by googling, but I don't doubt it. It's not an uncommon idea, and there are probably always people at work trying to reclaim the edges of desert for farming.

Just ran across this from 2009:

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/irrigation-system-can-grow-crops-with-salt-water

I am guessing this must not have worked somehow in practice because there's no other news about it. If it is viable it would be the perfect way to irrigate a desert because you could pump sea water inland without the great expense of de-salting it first. Still, you have to clean whatever has been filtered out of the water out of the pipes, and then what do you do with it?
 

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