Is my solution for the acceleration of two blocks correct?

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The discussion revolves around the acceleration of two blocks on an inclined plane, incorporating forces such as gravity and friction. Participants are attempting to verify their calculations and understand the underlying physics principles.

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  • Participants present various expressions for acceleration, questioning the correctness of their formulations and calculations. There are attempts to clarify the role of contact forces and the application of Newton's second law.

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Several participants have provided different expressions for acceleration, with some indicating that previous attempts were incorrect. Guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of equations and the consideration of forces acting on the blocks.

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a= F/m

F= mgsinθ-Ffr

Ffr = [itex]\mu[/itex]mgcosθ

d= 1/2gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution



a = (m1gsinθ+m2gsinθ)-([itex]\mu[/itex]m1gcosθ+[itex]\mu[/itex]m2gcosθ)/(m1+m2)

a = 3.72 m/s^2

t = 1.03s

I need someone to verify if this is correct, no anwser key was provided

d=
 

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ckboii89 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



a = [(m1gsinθ+m2gsinθ)-([itex]\mu_1[/itex]m1gcosθ+[itex]\mu[/itex]2m2gcosθ)]/(m1+m2)

a = 3.72 m/s^2

t = 1.03s

I need someone to verify if this is correct, no anwser key was provided

d=

Take care with the formulation. The first term has to be divided by (m1+m2), too. Your result is not correct.

ehild
 
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a=[gsinθ-(μ1m1gcosθ+μm2gcosθ)]
a=.298m/s^2

t=3.66

how about now?
 
ckboii89 said:
a=[gsinθ-(μ1m1gcosθ+μm2gcosθ)]
a=.298m/s^2

t=3.66

how about now?

Still wrong. Did you divide the second term with m1+m2?

ehild
 
a=[gsinθ-g(μ1cosθ+μcosθ)]
a = 2.35 m/s^2

t = 1.30s

ck
 
ckboii89 said:
a=[gsinθ-g(μ1cosθ+μcosθ)]
a = 2.35 m/s^2

t = 1.30s

ck

Correct the red part.

ehild
 
[gsinθ-μ1gcosθ-μ2gcosθ]
?

ehild i really appreciate the help

is the contact force the difference between the forces of the blocks? or the sum
 
The contact force is the magnitude of the force one block exerts to the other.

The common acceleration is the sum of all forces on the system divided by the sum of the masses. The internal forces (the force of block 1 on block 2 and the one block2 exerts to block 1 are opposite and of equal magnitude) cancel, so a=∑Fi(external)]/mi.

If T is the contact force, Newton's second law applied to both blocks says that

m1a1=m1gsin(θ)-T-m1μ1gcos(θ) and

m2a1=m2gsin(θ)+T-m2μ2gcos(θ) .

If the blocks move together, a1=a2.
Add the equations:

a(m1+m2)=(m1+m2)g sin(θ)-(m1μ1+m2μ2)gcos(θ),
that is,

[tex]a=gsin(\theta)-\frac{m_1 \mu_1+m_2\mu_2}{m_1 +m_2}g cos(\theta)[/tex]

ehild
 

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