Is My Vector Equation for a Plane Correct Without a Diagram?

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The discussion revolves around the correctness of a vector equation for a plane, specifically in the context of whether the equation is in parametric or non-parametric form. The original poster expresses confusion due to the absence of a diagram and seeks clarification on their approach.

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  • Participants discuss the distinction between parametric and non-parametric forms of a vector equation for a plane. The original poster attempts to determine the appropriate form based on provided images, while others clarify the components involved in the parametric form and question the connections between points A, B, and C.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts related to vector equations of planes. Some participants provide clarifications about the definitions and relationships between vectors, while others express a need for visual aids to better understand the spatial relationships involved.

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The original poster notes that the problem lacks a diagram, which contributes to their confusion regarding the connections between points and the appropriate form of the vector equation.

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for this question (photo 1), i am not sure whether this is type 1 (as the type in photo 2) or type 2 ( as in photo 3 ). the question didnt provide a diagram, this is making me confused. so i did it another way on the right , (using pencil ). is my working acceptable ?


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The vector equation can be in parametric or non-parametric form. In the third picture, the first vector form is the parametric one, while the second form, with a normal vector and a distance, is the non-parametric form. So I would guess (a) is asking for the n, d form.
 
You are supposed to draw a picture to your solution!
Sorry I can not decipher your pencilled note.

The parametric form of a plane uses two vectors in the plane (##\vec b## and ##\vec c##) , and a point of the plane (A, its position vector is ##\vec a##). The position vector ##\vec r## of an arbitrary point R of the plane is obtained as the sum [tex]\vec r = \vec a +μ \vec b + λ \vec c[/tex]
In the problem, A, B, C mean points of the plane, with position vectors (1,1,4), (3,0,-1) and (2,-2,0). Vectors connecting A to B and A to C ##, \vec b=\vec{AB}## and ##\vec c=\vec{AC}##, lie in the plane. You have to add their linear combination to the vector ##\vec a = (1,1,4)##

The solution in photo 1 is like in photo 2, only Q stands for B and P stands for C.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
You are supposed to draw a picture to your solution!
Sorry I can not decipher your pencilled note.

The parametric form of a plane uses two vectors in the plane (##\vec b## and ##\vec c##) , and a point of the plane (A, its position vector is ##\vec a##). The position vector ##\vec r## of an arbitrary point R of the plane is obtained as the sum [tex]\vec r = \vec a +μ \vec b + λ \vec c[/tex]
In the problem, A, B, C mean points of the plane, with position vectors (1,1,4), (3,0,-1) and (2,-2,0). Vectors connecting A to B and A to C ##, \vec b=\vec{AB}## and ##\vec c=\vec{AC}##, lie in the plane. You have to add their linear combination to the vector ##\vec a = (1,1,4)##

The solution in photo 1 is like in photo 2, only Q stands for B and P stands for C.

ehild

how do we know that a is connected to b and b is connected to c ? or a is connected to b and a is connected to c? in photo 3 , a is connected to b and b is connected to c.. that's why I'm wondering whether i can apply the same concept for the question in photo 1.
 
ehild said:
You are supposed to draw a picture to your solution!
Sorry I can not decipher your pencilled note.

The parametric form of a plane uses two vectors in the plane (##\vec b## and ##\vec c##) , and a point of the plane (A, its position vector is ##\vec a##). The position vector ##\vec r## of an arbitrary point R of the plane is obtained as the sum [tex]\vec r = \vec a +μ \vec b + λ \vec c[/tex]
In the problem, A, B, C mean points of the plane, with position vectors (1,1,4), (3,0,-1) and (2,-2,0). Vectors connecting A to B and A to C ##, \vec b=\vec{AB}## and ##\vec c=\vec{AC}##, lie in the plane. You have to add their linear combination to the vector ##\vec a = (1,1,4)##

The solution in photo 1 is like in photo 2, only Q stands for B and P stands for C.

ehild
sorry , for photo 2, i can't understand how can the plane is parallel to vector b and vector c .. can you draw me a better diagram. i can't imagine
 
b and c are vectors lying in the plane. A vector is parallel with a plane if all its points are at the same distance from the plane. It the line lies in the plane, all points are at zero distance of the plane. So the line is parallel with the plane.

ehild
 

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