Is the AP Physics 1 textbook flawed in its explanation of moment of inertia?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of moment of inertia in the context of AP Physics 1. Participants are examining how moment of inertia relates to various factors, including angular acceleration, angular velocity, and mass distribution.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning how moment of inertia can be independent of angular velocity, given its appearance in the equation for angular momentum. There is confusion about the relationship between mass, speed, and inertia, particularly in the context of rigid versus non-rigid bodies.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions and relationships between moment of inertia, angular momentum, and angular velocity. There is an acknowledgment of the need to differentiate between rigid and non-rigid structures in this context.

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There is a reference to textbook answers that participants are questioning, as well as a correction regarding the equation for angular momentum, indicating potential misunderstandings in the material being discussed.

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Homework Statement


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I'm probably missing something basic here but:

The moment of inertia of a body does NOT depend on which of the following? (choose 2 answers)

A: The angular acceleration of the body
B. The distribution of mass in the body
C. The angular velocity of the body
D. The axis of rotation of the body
E. The mass of the body

Homework Equations



L = Iw2 where L = angular momentum, I = inertia and w = angular velocity

The Attempt at a Solution



If L = Iw2 > > >(rearranged) >>> I = L/w2. How does Inertia not depend on angular velocity if the variable for angular vel (w) is in the equation? The answers in the back of the book say (A) and (C)
 
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Does mass depend on speed because KE = (1/2)mv2?
 
kuruman said:
Does mass depend on speed because KE = (1/2)mv2?

But doesn't inertia depend on angular speed if I = L/w2
 
Ercillent said:
If L = Iw2 > > >(rearranged) >>> I = L/w2. How does Inertia not depend on angular velocity if the variable for angular vel (w) is in the equation? The answers in the back of the book say (A) and (C)
The answer in the book is correct.
Ercillent said:
But doesn't inertia depend on angular speed if I = L/w2
Not for a rigid body. The only way the moment of inertia depends on angular velocity is if you have a non-rigid structure like a mechanical governor. As kuruman suggests, just because you can rearrange an equation to put an independent variable on one side of the equation, does not transform it into a dependent variable. Are you familiar with those terms? :smile:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SxXjZFy_Lgk/Th6KS2nfPdI/AAAAAAAAACY/oeGWJmL6rsc/s1600/governor.gif
governor.gif
 
Oh gotcha. Yeah you're right that wouldn't make any sense. Thanks!
 
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As a postscript and to keep the thread correct for future viewers, the equation L = I w2 is not valid. If L is angular momentum and w is angular speed, then L = I w. If w2 is to be kept, then we are talking rotational energy, Krot=(1/2)I w2.
 
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