Is the Total Force in Damped Harmonic Motion Always Opposite to Velocity?

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In damped harmonic motion, the total force acting on a mass is given by F = -b\dot{x} - kx, where the drag force is proportional to velocity and acts opposite to motion. The discussion clarifies that while the drag force and spring force may act in the same or opposite directions depending on the position of the mass relative to equilibrium, the drag force always opposes the velocity. When the mass is extended, both the drag and restoring forces act in opposite directions, while during compression, they also oppose each other but in a different manner. The key takeaway is that the forces' directions depend on the position of the mass, but the drag force consistently opposes the motion. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for analyzing damped harmonic systems effectively.
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Reading chapter 4 of Morin's "Introduction to classical mechanics" I came across to the explanation of the damped harmonic motion.

The mass m is subject to a drag force proportional to its velocity, ##F_f = -bv ##.
He says that the total force of the mass is ##F= -b \dot{x} -kx## and considering that ##F= m\ddot{x} ## we get this differential equation $$ \ddot{x} +\frac{b}{m} \dot{x} + \frac{k}{m} x=0$$

But the total force should be ##F= -b \dot{x} +kx##, shouldn't it? These two forces have opposite direction!
 

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fcoulomb said:
But the total force should be F=−b˙x+kxF=−bx˙+kxF= -b \dot{x} +kx, shouldn't it? These two forces have opposite direction!
if x is extension or compression in the spring the force experienced is always opposite to the
direction of change in x so spring force must be -k.x
 
Also, ##x## is not the same as ##\dot x##. Depending on their relative sign, the drag and restoring force may or may not be in the same direction.
 
Orodruin said:
Also, xxx is not the same as ˙xx˙\dot x. Depending on their relative sign, the drag and restoring force may or may not be in the same direction.
however the velocity /motion of the body will always be opposed by the drag so it should be -damping coefficient times the velocity.
take two cases...

1. .x is increasing ..extension..so -k.x and velocity is in the same direction so again the drag will be opposite

2. take compression x is reducing so so restoring force will oppose compression and velocity is in the direction of compression so drag will be outward.

Am i right...
 
drvrm said:
1. .x is increasing ..extension..so -k.x and velocity is in the same direction so again the drag will be opposite
This depends on what you mean with "x is increasing". If you assume positive ##x##, yes. It would be more accurate to say that the forces act in the same direction whenever you move away from the equilibrium position and in opposite directions whenever you move towards the equilibrium position.
 
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