Is There a Solution for Finding the Optimal Spring Design?

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The discussion focuses on finding the optimal combination of active coils and wire diameter for a spring that exerts a specific force when compressed. The user has been struggling to solve the equations related to the spring's behavior at different compression levels, particularly at 20% and 80% of its deflection. They suspect potential errors in their equations or the absence of a solution within the specified range. The user is considering seeking further assistance in the math section of the forum to verify their calculations. The goal is to achieve the greatest force output from the spring design.
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I have an application involving a spring and in order to get the proper behavior, I need to solve the problem below. I've been at it for weeks and haven't been able to solve it - which tells me its time to appeal to my mathematical betters.
Given a spring that exerts 36.6lbs of force(N) while being compressed to 20% of its available deflection, find the combination of active coils(a) and wire diameter(d) that achieves the greatest force when the spring is compressed to %80 of its avilable deflection.

So basically I've boiled it down to the two values I need to solve for for each compression:
eq_1.png

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The closest I've come to something that makes sense is to solve for the first equation (the spring at 20%) in terms of a. Then Rework the second equation with th new value for a. However this seems to produce nonsense when graphed.

If its relevant the values for the other variables are as follows:
  • G= 11.5x10^6
  • D= 0.269
  • P= tan(12degrees)Pi(D-d)
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If you need/want to see how I arrived at any of the above conclusions let me know and Ill put it up.
 
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And this isn't a math problem from a book or anything like that, I structured it that way because its what I am comfortable solving.

Though if you think it might be better served in the Math area of the forum let me know.
 


Ive been thinking about it and theoretically what I was doing should have produced a workable result which tells me I possibly messed up at 3 points:
1) there is no solution to the first equation over my workable range (0,0.06725)
2) I messed up constructing the equation on paper (algebraic error)
3) I messed up translating the equation from paper to a computationally workable form

So for now I'm going to review point 1 and if it exists ill head over to the math section to verify my equations.
 
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