Isothermal compression vs thermally isolated compression

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In the discussion on isothermal versus thermally isolated compression of an ideal gas, it is clarified that isothermal compression allows heat to flow out to maintain constant temperature, while thermally isolated (adiabatic) compression does not permit heat exchange, resulting in a temperature increase. The internal energy of the gas remains constant during isothermal compression but increases during adiabatic compression, ruling out options A and B. The work done on the gas differs between the two processes due to the temperature changes, eliminating option D. The only property that remains the same for both samples is the density, as it is determined by the number of moles and volume, leading to the correct answer being C. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for solving related thermodynamics problems.
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1. Homework Statement
Two equal masses of an ideal gas initially at the same temperature and pressure are compressed to half of their initial volumes, one of them isothermally, and the other while thermally isolated from its surroundings.
Which one of the following is the same for both samples of the gas?
A) the heat given during compression
B) the internal energy of the compressed gas
C) the density of the compressed gas
D) the work done on the gas during compression
2. Relevant equations
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3. The attempt at a solution
My initial thought was "is there a diff between 'isothermally' and 'thermally isolated from surroundings' ?". Or is it just a trick statement? i gave it a try and chose B as the answer cause i thought internal energy of ideal gas depends on its temperature. Since both are (i assumed) isothermally compressed, internal energy at the end must be the same, regardless of change in pressure or volume. Alas, my physics teacher posted answers on the net and it came out as C. WHY?
 
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balibone said:
My initial thought was "is there a diff between 'isothermally' and 'thermally isolated from surroundings' ?". Or is it just a trick statement? i gave it a try and chose B as the answer cause i thought internal energy of ideal gas depends on its temperature. Since both are (i assumed) isothermally compressed, internal energy at the end must be the same, regardless of change in pressure or volume. Alas, my physics teacher posted answers on the net and it came out as C. WHY?
Thermally isolated from surroundings = adiabatic: no heat flow into or out of the gas.

In an adiabatic compression, dQ = 0 so dU = -dW where dW is the incremental work done BY the gas. Since work is done ON the gas to compress it, dU>0, so its temperature will increase. So adiabatic compression cannot be isothermal.

Heat must flow out of the gas to keep temperature constant in an isothermal compression. Heat cannot flow out in an adiabatic compression. Internal energy increases in the adiabatic compression but is constant in the isothermal compression.

So A and B are out. Since the work done on the gas depends on the pressure of the gas which is proportional to the temperature at a given volume, the adiabatic compression requires more work at the gas heats up. So D is out. That leaves C. Since \rho = n/V, density does not depend on how the gas is compressed.

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