Kinetic friction, mass on track when will it stop.

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A block of mass m is released from a height h on a frictionless track, encountering a rough section with a coefficient of kinetic friction μ = 0.15. The calculated height is 0.85 m, but there is confusion regarding how many times the block crosses the rough section before stopping. The initial velocity was found to be 11.43 m/s, leading to an estimate of 7.84 crossings, while the answer booklet states 7. The discussion highlights the importance of considering the complete crossings and clarifies the relationship between energy loss due to friction and the height of the track. The final conclusion emphasizes the need to interpret the question accurately regarding the term "completely."
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Homework Statement



A block of mass m is initially held in place on the left side of a track at a distance h above the bottom of the track. The track is completely frictionless, with the exception of a rough horizontal section of track of length h which has a coefficient of kinetic friction μ = 0.15. If the block is released from rest, how many times does the block completely cross the rough section of track before it stops?




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So I have worked out the height to be 0.85 m, but am stuck on finding an expression for when the ball will stop I have what I think it is

x=number of times without stopping= v^2/2gh

does this see right, and I worked out v = 11.43 but when I plug it in I get 7.84 times... in the answer booklet it says seven but I am not sure if that's because you can't round up because it doesn't make sense so they round down to 7??
 
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Hey,


I hope this makes it clear enough :-)


sg001 said:
how many times does the block completely cross the rough section of track before it stops?
 
Wondering how you get the value of h=0.85 m since only a coefficient of kinetic friction μ = 0.15 is given. And not mentioning anything about a ball.
 
azizlwl said:
Wondering how you get the value of h=0.85 m since only a coefficient of kinetic friction μ = 0.15 is given. And not mentioning anything about a ball.

by the work energy theorem, I worked out how much energy was lost through the distance of friction patch... the height of the track is the same 'height' or distance as the friction patch.
 
emailanmol said:
Hey,


I hope this makes it clear enough :-)

Yeah thanks, I was assuming that just wanted to check... I did not really pick up on the COMPLETELY part of the question.
 
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