Kinetic Friction ProblemNeed Help

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The discussion revolves around a kinetic friction problem involving a 32.0 kg box being pulled on a horizontal surface by a rope at an angle. Participants are examining the forces acting on the box, including normal force, weight, tension, and kinetic friction, while trying to determine the box's acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the free body diagram and the application of trigonometric functions to resolve forces. There are attempts to clarify the roles of tension and its components in both the x and y directions.

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Some participants have offered guidance on checking trigonometric calculations and reconsidering the incorporation of tension in the vertical force balance. There is an acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the orientation of the box and the rope, which has led to confusion in calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. The original poster expresses confusion about their calculations and the requirements of the problem.

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Kinetic Friction Problem..Need Help!

Okay...so I really think I'm doing this right..but the CAPA thing won't take my answer so there has to be something I'm doing wrong.
The Question is ...
A 32.0 kg box is being pulled along a horizontal surface by means of a rope that exerts a force of 265 N at an angle of 54.5o above the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the surface is 0.330. What is the acceleration of the box?

So I drew my free body diagram and I had the Normal Force and the Weight and cosine of the angle in the y direction and I had the kinetic friction (normal force times kinetic friction coefficient) and weight and sine of the angle in the X direction.

Then I worked it all out and I got
Fy = may
Fy = 0
N - W(cos54.5) = 0
N - mg(cos54.5) = 0
N = 32.0kg (9.81 m/s^2)(cos54.5)
N = 182.3

Fx = max
-fk + T - w(sin54.5) = max
T - (N x uk) - mg(sin54.5) = max
265 - (182.3 x 0.330) - (32kg)(9.81m/s^2)(sin54.5) = 32kg(ax)
then I solved It all and it worked out to be -1.59 m/s^2
but its saying its not right..so I'm confused beyond belief now.
so Please help me .. lol:confused:
 
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Check your trig functions in calculating N.
 
I've switched the trig functions around and tried that answer but still nothing. and I'm almost positive I have my trig done right anyways...but thanks.
 
mixedtape_15 said:
I've tried this already but it didn't help..besides I'm almost positive that I have my trig done right.

So you're sure [tex]N - w \cos{54.5} = 0[/tex]?
 
well there is no acceleration in the y direction so I guess it would have to be that.
 
Look at the x- and y-components of all the forces, and determine what you have.

[tex]\Sigma F_{x} = T_{x} - F_{f}[/tex]

[tex]\Sigma F_{y} = N + T_{y} - mg[/tex]
 
mixedtape_15 said:
well there is no acceleration in the y direction so I guess it would have to be that.

Why the cosine? Like I said, rethink your trig.
 
I didn't think you had to incorporate the tension into the Y direction...isn't it just in the X?
 
mixedtape_15 said:
I didn't think you had to incorporate the tension into the Y direction...isn't it just in the X?
Re-read the question, and redraw your free body diagram. The surface is horizontal, but the rope is not.

There is certainly a y-component of the tension, and it alleviates some of the normal force.
 
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okay I'll go do that and hopefully figure this out..thanks
 
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Okay I just redid it and realized my stupid mistake. I thought that the box was on a slope..but then when I reread it I realized that the box was on a straight horizontal and it was the rope that was on the angle. Thanks a bunch! :D
 

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