Latent heat and final temperature

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of a mixture involving aluminum, water, iron, and ice. The initial calculations suggested a final temperature of 19.9°C, but this was later identified as incorrect due to computational errors. The key principle applied was that the heat gained by the aluminum container, water, and ice must equal the heat lost by the iron. After reevaluation, the correct final temperature was determined to be approximately 4.5°C higher than the initial estimate. The importance of verifying energy balances in such thermal problems was emphasized throughout the discussion.
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Homework Statement



An aluminum container whose mass is 205g contains 300g of water at 20°C. In this container is then placed 250g of iron at 150°C and 20g of ice at -10°C. Find the final temperature of the mixture.

Given:

mAl=205g
mH2O=300g
TAl1=TH2O1=20°C
mFe=250g
mice=20g
TFe=150°C
Tice=-10°C

Homework Equations



Since the heat gained by aluminum container, water, and ice is equal to heat lost by iron, then

QAl+QH2O+Qice=QFe

Q=mcΔT

The Attempt at a Solution



What is asked is the final temperature of mixture, Tmix. so,

QAl=(mAl)(cAl)(Tmix-TAl1)=(205g)(.21cal/g°C)(Tmix-20°C)=43.05Tmix-861

QH2O=(mH2O)(cH2O)(Tmix-TH2O1)=(300g)(1cal/g°C)(Tmix-20°C)=300Tmix-6000

Qice=(mice)(cice)(Tmix-Tice)+(mice)(Lf)=(20g)(.5cal/g°C)(Tmix-(-10°C))+(20g)(80cal/g)=10Tmix+100cal+1600cal

Lf is the latent heat of iceQFe=(mFe)(cFe)(TFe-Tmix)=(250g)(.11cal/g°C)(150°C-Tmix)=4125cal-27.5Tmix

Therefore,

(43.05Tmix-861cal)+(300Tmix-6000cal)+(10Tmix+100cal+1600cal)=4125cal-27.5Tmix

380.55Tmix=7564cal

Tmix=19.88°C

Is this correct? i think there's something wrong in my solution..
 
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Do this simple check to determine yourself whether your answer is correct. Take your final answer of 19.9 C and look at energy balances. You have energy lost by the vessel and its water. It is lost because the final temperature is lower than its initial temperature. Now determine how much energy the ice gained going from -10 C to 19.9 C including latent heat. Do the same for the energy loss of the iron going from 150 C to 19.9 C. Do you have a balance? If not, you did something wrong.
 
Do this simple check to determine yourself whether your answer is correct. Take your final answer of 19.9 C and look at energy balances. You have energy lost by the vessel and its water. It is lost because the final temperature is lower than its initial temperature. Now determine how much energy the ice gained going from -10 C to 19.9 C including latent heat. Do the same for the energy loss of the iron going from 150 C to 19.9 C. Do you have a balance? If not, you did something wrong.


i already check it. and yes it's wrong.

Since the heat gained by aluminum container, water, and ice is equal to heat lost by iron

is my assumption correct?
 
Yes, the heat gained by the aluminum container, water, and ice equals the heat lost by iron.

Your answer is off by about 4.5 C. I have not gone through your calculations; I only did my own.
 
thank you very much sir! i finally got the correct answer. i made a wrong computation on the right hand side of the last equation. God bless!
 
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