Launching from Mars - Mass & Radius of R_m

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The discussion centers on calculating the initial velocity of an object launched from Mars, given its mass and radius. Participants express confusion over the necessary equations and how to apply them, particularly regarding gravitational force and acceleration. The use of Newton's universal law of gravitation is suggested to determine the force acting on the object, which can then be used to find acceleration. There is uncertainty about how to find the distance and whether work is relevant to the problem. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexity of applying theoretical physics concepts to this scenario without specific numerical values.
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Homework Statement


The Radius of Mars is R_m
its mass is m

The radius of Mars (from the center to just above the atmosphere) is R_m and its mass is m. An object is launched from just above the atmosphere of mars.

A) what is the object's initial velocity if its final velocity is V_f

Homework Equations



a=(v^2)/R <--wat v is this?
W=deltaKE

The Attempt at a Solution



i don't know how to start

im thinking i need to calculate the gravity from mars?
but if all I am given is mass and radius
how do i calculate it?

i need to find the amount of work done by Mars right?
 
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I think you need to use Newtons universal gravity law...

F=(GM1M2)R^2

This means that the force is equal to the constant G (6.67X10^-11) multiped by both masses, all of this divided by the distance between them squared.

this will get you the Force.

So now you have force, you know that Fnet=ma, so the acceleration will be {(Gm1m2)/R^2}/m

finally, Vf^2-Vo^2=2a(x), so you simply solve using the above equation as a, and they just say to use Vo i believe
I don't think this is a problem you shoudl get numbers for, it seems like a concept that you just want to work through with different equations and not really use numbers.

This is just from what I understand.

Good luck!
 
im solving for Vo

the object is launched from above the atmosphere

im given the distance between object and Mars (R_m)
and I'm given the weight of Mars (m)

and I'm given Vf of the object

so what I did (but I did not get a good answer)

was use

F=Gm1m2/r^2

m1 = object
m2 = mars
r=distance from Mars and object

so the F equals

F= Gm1m2/(R_m)^2

and then I think I'm suppose this formua

total W = deltaKE

F*d = .5m1vf^2 - .5m1vo^2

but how do I find d?

I think this is right

how do I use

vf^2-vo^2 = 2a (x) <--whats x ?
 
With what you have you won't be able to find work and finding energy is also not going to work out. I can't help if you don't supply numbers, I solved it simply with the units, plugging the numbers in should have yielded the answer.

From what I can understand by your explanation that is anyway, it doesn't seem like work is in anyway involved.
 
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