Lift generated by a flapping wing.

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The discussion focuses on estimating the lift generated by a flapping wing, specifically during the downstroke, while considering an angle of attack from -45 to 45 degrees. The original poster seeks guidance on determining the necessary flapping frequency to achieve a specific lift requirement. Participants suggest conducting a Google search for resources on the aerodynamics of flapping wings, noting that flapping wings also provide thrust, as seen in birds and helicopter rotors. There is a clarification regarding the term "flapping" as it applies to helicopter rotors, highlighting the differences in mechanics. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexity of lift generation in flapping wing designs.
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Hi. I am trying to find an estimate for the lift generated by a flapping wing. For this scenario, we can assume that the wing has an AoA ranging from -45 deg to 45 deg. Also, we can ignore the lift generated by the upstroke because, for this specific wing design, a majority of the lift is generated during the downstroke. Ideally, my goal is to find what flapping frequency the wing would have to operate at to achieve a required amount of lift. I am having trouble in finding where to start. If anyone has any suggestions or useful resources, that would be awesome.
 
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I hope those links lead you to the information you need. Don't forget that flapping wings must provide forward/backward thrust as well as lift. Birds other than hummingbirds usually don't hover.
 
anorlunda said:
I hope those links lead you to the information you need. Don't forget that flapping wings must provide forward/backward thrust as well as lift. Birds other than hummingbirds usually don't hover.

That's not entirely accurate. Flapping wings are also common in helicopter rotors, which don't provide thrust in quite the same way as a bird (I'm sure I probably didn't actually have to type that last part).
 
boneh3ad said:
Flapping wings are also common in helicopter rotors,
Thanks for that. I learned. I never heard the word flapping applied to helicopter rotors before. But a google for that shows that you're correct.
 
anorlunda said:
Thanks for that. I learned. I never heard the word flapping applied to helicopter rotors before. But a google for that shows that you're correct.

Why not do an ornithoptercopter ?
 
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anorlunda said:
I never heard the word flapping applied to helicopter rotors before
Well in fairness, it's a different kind of "flapping". :wink:
 
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