Light Interference Wave Equation - Assumption

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The discussion revolves around the topic of light interference and the wave equation, specifically focusing on the assumptions related to averaging functions over time in the context of photographic exposure and intensity calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to clarify the conditions under which a cosine term can be ignored in the wave equation. They question the relationship between wave parameters k and ω, and seek guidance on averaging a function over time.
  • Some participants suggest that averaging y² over time can simplify the analysis, while others inquire about the implications of this averaging process and the significance of the variable y.
  • There are discussions about the nature of the cosine function and its behavior over long exposure times, with participants questioning how to handle periodic functions in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the averaging process and its mathematical implications. Some guidance has been provided regarding the averaging of periodic functions, but there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions or methods being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of averaging functions in the context of light intensity and exposure, with references to specific mathematical techniques and external resources. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between amplitude and intensity, as well as the limits of integration for averaging periodic functions.

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To be clear it's part (vi) that's unclear to me.

In order to ignore the cosine term it has to reduce to 1. This can happen, only if k(x1+x2)/2 = ωt

Is this a correct assumption ?

Also, it is known that k = 2∏/λ and ω=2∏/T

However, I'm trying to think in what way these two components could be equal but I can't get it.

Could someone give me some help, please ?
 
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For a long exposure, you average y^2 over time - the constant phase in the cosine does not matter for the average.
 
mfb said:
For a long exposure, you average y^2 over time - the constant phase in the cosine does not matter for the average.

I really don't understand what you mean. Could you please break it down for me ?

I really do appreciate you taking the time out to help me.
 
A photograph collects light over a period of time.
The lightness in the photo depends on the intensity of the incoming light and the time of the exposure.

He's telling you to find y^2, then average it over time.
This gives you a function of position alone - which will be what the photograph shows.
When you do this - the terms you are worried about will cancel out.

Do you know what y=?
Do you know how to square a function?
Do you know how to average a function?
 
Simon Bridge said:
A photograph collects light over a period of time.
The lightness in the photo depends on the intensity of the incoming light and the time of the exposure.

He's telling you to find y^2, then average it over time.
This gives you a function of position alone - which will be what the photograph shows.
When you do this - the terms you are worried about will cancel out.

Do you know what y=?
Do you know how to square a function?
Do you know how to average a function?

I can do the first two but not the last one. How do I average a function over time ?

EDIT: Why do I need to find y^2 ? Is it because intensity is directly proportional to Amplitude^2 ?
 
Did you read the links? The second one tells how to handle the average of a periodic function - what does it say to do?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Did you read the links? The second one tells how to handle the average of a periodic function - what does it say to do?

I've carried out the steps for the time average for cos2x for limits 0 to T.

I've gotten : \frac{1}{T}[\frac{1}{2}T+\frac{1}{4}sin2T]

What do I choose to be T in this case ? Infinity ?
 
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But it is not exactly cos2x that you have to average is it? x(t)=?

The trick with time averaging square trig-functions is to choose your interval carefully - if you let T be any integer number of quarter cycles, the average will make sense easily. I usually pick a singe period for T.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/math/defint.html (3rd panel down)
 

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