Linear Algebra linear combinations help

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The discussion revolves around linear combinations in the context of linear algebra, specifically focusing on the conditions under which certain vectors fill a space and the requirements for spanning four-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the conditions for vectors to fill the plane and question the interpretation of a problem asking for vectors that span R^4. There is uncertainty about the relationship between the two parts of the question and the specific vectors needed.

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Some participants have offered potential vectors that could span R^4, while others express confusion about the problem's requirements and seek clarification on the meaning of the components mentioned.

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Participants note that the problem is presented as a challenge in the textbook, which may imply a level of complexity or expectation beyond straightforward solutions. There is also mention of potential ambiguity in the relationship between the two parts of the question.

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The linear combinations of v=(a,b) and w=(c,d) fill the plane unless _____.
Find four vectors u, v, w, z with four components each so that their combinations cu+dv+ew+fz produce all vectors (b1, b2, b3, b4) in four dimensional space.

I think that the first part of the answer, that fills the blank, is unless v is a scalar multiple of w, or vice versa.

But as far as the second part of the question, I have no idea what it is even asking. Are b1, etc. referencing the first part of the question? Or is it just asking to write vectors that have all zero components except b1 etc. Any help is much appreciated?
 
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The first answer looks fine. I THINK the second one is just asking you to write down four vectors that span R^4. Like u=(1,0,0,0) might be a good choice for the first one. Can you give me a v, w and z that span together with u?
 
That's what I thought it might mean v=(0,1,0,0), w=(0,0,1,0), z=(0,0,01), but that seems too simple. It's listed in the book as a challenge problems
 
porschedude said:
That's what I thought it might mean v=(0,1,0,0), w=(0,0,1,0), z=(0,0,01), but that seems too simple. It's listed in the book as a challenge problems

Sure. But I can't think what else it might mean. It certainly can't be referencing any symbols in the first part, since the first part is about R^2.
 
Alright, thanks for the help,
 

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