Linear algebra problem with a probable typo

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The discussion revolves around a linear algebra problem involving the evaluation of a function's norm and potential typographical errors in the expression of that function. Participants are analyzing the calculations related to vector norms and matrix representations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the correctness of the factors used in the norm calculation and questioning whether a typo exists in the function's definition. Suggestions include testing alternative values for components of the function and considering different norms.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with some participants pointing out potential mistakes and others suggesting alternative approaches. Guidance has been offered regarding the representation of the function as a matrix, which may clarify the situation.

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Participants are working under the assumption that there may be a typo in the original problem statement, and they are checking calculations based on this premise. The discussion includes references to specific components of the function and their contributions to the overall norm.

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Homework Statement
Find ##m \in \mathbb{R}## so that the following linear operator in ##\mathbb{R}^3## be an isometry: $$F\left(x,y,z\right)=\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}x+\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}y+mz,\frac{-1}{\sqrt{6}}x+\frac{2}{\sqrt{6}}y-\frac{1}{\sqrt{6}}z,-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}x+\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}z\right).$$
Relevant Equations
If ##F## is an isometry, then ##\left\Vert F\left(u\right)\right\Vert =\left\Vert u\right\Vert ##.
Well, my guess is that there is something wrong with the factors chosen, because ##\left\Vert \left(0,1,0\right)\right\Vert =1## and
\begin{align}
\left\Vert F\left(0,1,0\right)\right\Vert &=\left\Vert \left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}\left(0\right)+\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}\left(1\right)+m\left(0\right),\frac{-1}{\sqrt{6}}\left(0\right)+\frac{2}{\sqrt{6}}\left(1\right)-\frac{1}{\sqrt{6}}\left(0\right),-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\left(0\right)+\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\left(0\right)\right)\right\Vert \\&=\left\Vert \left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}},\frac{2}{\sqrt{6}},0\right)\right\Vert \\&=\sqrt{\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}\right)^{2}+\left(\frac{2}{\sqrt{3}}\right)^{2}}\\&=\sqrt{\frac{1}{3}+\frac{4}{3}}\\&=\sqrt{\frac{5}{3}}.
\end{align}
So, am I wright? I mean, it looks like it was some kind of a typing error.
 
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Have you checked some other vectors if you replace ##\dfrac{2}{\sqrt{6}}y## by ##\dfrac{2}{\sqrt{3}}y## in the second component of ##F##?

Another possibility could be a different norm.
 
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I think that you have a mistake in the third line of your calculation. The y term should be ##(2/\sqrt{6})^2##, not ##(2/\sqrt{3})^2##
 
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Oh, thanks!
 
Portuga said:
Oh, thanks!
It would have been a good idea to write ##F## as a matrix:
$$F \ \dot = \ \begin{bmatrix}
\frac 1 {\sqrt 3}&\frac 1 {\sqrt 3}&m\\
-\frac 1 {\sqrt 6}&\frac 2 {\sqrt 6}&-\frac 1 {\sqrt 6}\\
-\frac 1 {\sqrt 2}&0&\frac 1 {\sqrt 2}
\end{bmatrix}$$And then things are obvious, hopefully.
 
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Yes, now I got the point.
 

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