Linear algebra proof

In summary: The assertion in (i) tells you that if v is not zero, then x = v. This is because T(v) = 0 for some v not zero in V.
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stunner5000pt
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Let T: V->V be a linear transformation where V is finite dimensional. Show ath exactly one of (i) an (ii) holds
i) T(v) = 0 for some v not zero in V
ii) T(x) = v has a solution x in V for every v in V


do they mean that if i holds then ii cannot hold?
Ok suppose i holds
T(v) = 0 for some v in V, v not zero
then T(T(v)) = T(0) = 0
let T(v) = x
then T(x) = 0
only solution here is x = v
So T(x) = 0 for all x. ANd thus is not possible for T(x) = v if T(v) = 0
 
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do they mean that if i holds then ii cannot hold?
There's more to it than that...


Anyways, your proof doesn't make any sense to me: here are the problems I see:

T(v) = 0 for some v in V, v not zero
then T(T(v)) = T(0) = 0
let T(v) = x
Okay. I don't see the point of defining x to be zero, though.

then T(x) = 0
only solution here is x = v
(1) Solution to what?
(2) For what are you solving? You haven't written down any unknowns!
(3) Why is it a solution?
(4) Why is it the only solution?


So T(x) = 0 for all x.
You've defined x to be T(v) (which is zero) -- so it doesn't make sense to say "for all x".
 
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Clearly i missed the point of the question

what are they asking for actually?
i imples that ii cannot h0old and vice versa?? Is that what I am aiming for here?
 
  • #4
Let T: V->V be a linear transformation where V is finite dimensional. Show that exactly one of (i) an (ii) holds
i) T(v) = 0 for some v not zero in V
ii) T(x) = v has a solution x in V for every v in V


"Show that exactly one holds" means "one of these and only one" You must show that for any vector v either (i) is true or (ii) is true and also show that they can't both be true.

What do you know about T(0)? If (i) is true, if T(v)= 0 for non-zero v, then what is the solution to T(x)= 0?
 
  • #5
HallsofIvy said:
Let T: V->V be a linear transformation where V is finite dimensional. Show that exactly one of (i) an (ii) holds
i) T(v) = 0 for some v not zero in V
ii) T(x) = v has a solution x in V for every v in V


"Show that exactly one holds" means "one of these and only one" You must show that for any vector v either (i) is true or (ii) is true and also show that they can't both be true.

What do you know about T(0)? If (i) is true, if T(v)= 0 for non-zero v, then what is the solution to T(x)= 0?
'
isnt T(0) = 0
suppose T(v) = 0, then if T(x) = 0, then x = v
 
  • #6
stunner5000pt said:
'
isnt T(0) = 0
suppose T(v) = 0, then if T(x) = 0, then x = v

Did you notice the emphasis in the solution?

Yes, T(0)= 0. Don't you see a problem with that and "T(v)= 0 for some no-zero v"?
 
  • #7
HallsofIvy said:
Did you notice the emphasis in the solution?

Yes, T(0)= 0. Don't you see a problem with that and "T(v)= 0 for some no-zero v"?

so
suppose T(v) = 0 for v not zero
then suppose T(x) = 0, for some x in V then x =v.
But T(0) = 0 , so x must be zero? But v is non zero. SO the second one cannot hold? Is it like that?
 
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In general, T(x) = T(y) does not imply x = y.
 
  • #9
Hurkyl said:
In general, T(x) = T(y) does not imply x = y.
right, T in this case is not specified to be one to one
so for T(x) = 0 ,x MUST be v because of the assertion of the first condition.
 
  • #10
so for T(x) = 0 ,x MUST be v because of the assertion of the first condition.
Why do you think (i) tells you x = v?
 

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