Liquid pressure in microgravity

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The discussion revolves around the concept of liquid pressure in a microgravity environment, specifically examining the implications of the formula p = ρgh in such conditions. Participants explore whether molecular motion in the liquid can create pressure despite the absence of gravitational force.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the validity of the formula p = ρgh in microgravity, considering molecular interactions and vapor pressure. Some suggest that the formula may only provide an approximation under certain conditions.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between gravitational effects and pressure in liquids. Some participants have offered alternative formulations and interpretations of pressure in the absence of gravity, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of pressure in microgravity, with references to initial pressure and changes in pressure relative to gravitational influence. The discussion acknowledges the limitations of the original formula in this context.

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Homework Statement



This is more of a conceptual question rather than a homework problem. This is my first post, so apologies if this is in the wrong section.

Consider a jar full of liquid in microgravity.

My book says:
According to the formula p = ρgh, p→0 as g→0. Thus there is no pressure in the jar when it's in microgravity.

My problem:
Isn't it true, though, that the molecules in the liquid are jiggling around? Wouldn't these molecules still inadvertently bump into the sides of the jar, creating pressure?

Homework Equations



p = ρgh

The Attempt at a Solution



My current thought is that the pressure due to this bumping is negligible. So the formula p = ρgh is a (good) approximation.
 
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Here is my opinion. "the formula p = ρgh" is generally used in determining the pressure of liquids at a given depth, h, in a container on the Earth.
I would think that in no gravity, like in space, there will always be some pressure due to the vapor of the liquid. If you had a gas in space, then of course there would be pressure.
 
Barryj is correct. In addition, the equation p=ρgh is not really correct. It should not be used to determine the absolute pressure. The equation should really read Δp=ρgΔz, or, even better dp = ρg dz. The equation gives the relative change in pressure with distance in the direction of the gravitational vector, rather than giving the absolute pressure.
 
Brilliant, thank you barryj and Chestermiller.

Would it be appropriate to suggest p = p_{0} + \rho gh, where p_{0} is the initial pressure? So, as you were saying Chestermiller, p = \rho gh would be the change in pressure.
 
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Brilliant, thank you barryj and Chestermiller.

Would it be appropriate to suggest p = p_{0} + \rho gh, where p_{0} is the initial pressure? So, as you were saying Chestermiller, p = \rho gh would be the change in pressure.

Yes, with spatial position in a gravitational field.
 

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