Locus of all points due to a charge

  • Thread starter Thread starter tempneff
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Charge Points
AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around determining the locus of points P(x,y,z) where the electric field component E_x equals 500 V/m due to a 100 nC point charge located at A(-1, 1, 3). Participants emphasize the importance of using the equation E=k(q/r^2)R, where R is the position vector, and clarify that the unit vector must be derived from the full vector divided by its magnitude. There is confusion regarding the transition between Cartesian and spherical coordinates, with suggestions to focus on the Cartesian approach for this problem. The need for an equation that incorporates x, y, and z is highlighted, as it is essential for defining the locus. Overall, the conversation seeks to clarify the mathematical relationships and concepts necessary to solve the problem effectively.
tempneff
Messages
82
Reaction score
3

Homework Statement


A 100 nC point charge is located at A(-1, 1, 3) in free space. (a) Find the locus of all point P(x,y,z) at which E_x = \frac{V}{m}. Find y_1 if P(-2,y_1,3) lies on that locus.

Homework Equations


E=k\frac{q}{r^2}\vec{r}\hspace{10pt}E_X=E\cos\theta\hspace{10pt}\vec{R}=<(x_2-x_1),(y_2-y_1),(z_2-z_1)>\hspace{10pt}
Cartesian to Spherical: r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}\hspace{10pt}\theta = cos^{-1}\frac{z}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}} \hspace{10pt} \phi = \cot^{-1}\frac{x}{y}

The Attempt at a Solution


I converted the vector R to spherical coordinates because I figured that using the radius I could find the field where \theta and \phi = 0 then convert back to cartesian...It didn't work. I had a hint that I should use E=k\frac{q}{\vert{\vec{R}\vert^3}}\vec{R} but I don't quite understand why. I believe this is just multiplying by 1, but I thought that while k\frac{q}{r^2}\vec{r} already include the vector I could just plug in \vec{R} for unit vector \vec{r} then why would I have to divide by the magnitude again.

I am sure at this point that I am misunderstanding things so any clarification of these concepts it priceless. Thanks in advance for any tips.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
tempneff said:
E_x = \frac{V}{m}.
There seems to be a number missing. How many Volts/metre?
I see no merit in switching to polar. Use ##E=k\frac{q}{r^2}\vec{r}##, replacing r with x, y, z. Given that you only want the x component, how will you replace ##\vec{r}##?
(In the equation you posted with R3, the R vector appears to be the full vector, not the unit vector. Hence the need to divide by the magnitude again.)
 
Right, that was supposed to be E_x=500\frac{V}{m}

I'm not sure how I can replace \vec{r} reflecting only the x direction. Also, if they are asking for a locus, do i have to come up with a item including x,y, and z rather than just x.
 
tempneff said:
I'm not sure how I can replace \vec{r} reflecting only the x direction.
The complete vector (##\vec R##?) is <x, y, z>. The unit vector is the same divided by its magnitude. So what is the x component of that?
Also, if they are asking for a locus, do i have to come up with a item including x,y, and z
An equation involving x, y and z, yes.
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top