Longitudinal waves in a quartz plate

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Longitudinal waves in a quartz plate create peaks on both sides, with the base frequency given as f_1=2.87E5/s, where s is the thickness of the plate. To calculate Young's modulus of quartz, the velocity of the waves must be determined, which is influenced by the plate's thickness and density (specific mass of 2.66 g/cm³). The discussion highlights the challenge of finding a single velocity due to the dependence on both thickness and an unknown length. Clarification is provided that the base frequency allows for the determination of a corresponding wavelength, which simplifies the calculations. Ultimately, understanding the relationship between frequency, wavelength, and thickness is crucial for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


In a quartz longitudinal waves produce peaks on the 2 sides of the plate. the base frequency is:
##f_1=\frac{2.87E5}{s}##
Where s is the thickness. calculate Young's modulus of quartz.
\rho=specific mass=2.66[gr/cm3]

Homework Equations


\lambda=wavelength, u=velocity \lambda=\frac{u}{f}
E=young's modulus, u=\sqrt{\frac{E}{\rho}}

The Attempt at a Solution


I need to find the velocity u, but it depends on the length of the plate which i don't have. and even if i have the length, the frequency depends on the thickness. but since there is one Young modulus, since i was asked about, then there is one velocity.
If i write Young's modulus and the specific mass in their ingredients then the length cancels but then i have 3 other variables. and besides i am given \rho.
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
You can express the wavelength as a function of s, the thickness of the plate.
 
Yes, i can express the wavelength as a function of the thickness s but not as a function of the length hence i get many velocities u hence i cannot get one young's modulus E
 
What length?

And you don't get many velocities. They tell you that f is the base frequency. So you can find the base wavelength corresponding to maxima on the two faces (2s). And then the velocity.
 
Oh, now is see what you mean, i thought of the length as the long dimension of the plate, which is unknown, i will try to solve now
 
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