Lorentz Force Part 2: Proving v.E = 0, E.B = 0, v ≥ E/B

In summary, Lorentz Force Part 2 is a continuation of the study of the force experienced by a charged particle in an electromagnetic field. It focuses on proving the fundamental equations v.E = 0, E.B = 0, and v ≥ E/B, which are crucial in understanding the behavior of charged particles in these fields and have practical applications. These equations are proven by manipulating the Lorentz force equation and the definitions of electric and magnetic fields, and by analyzing the direction of the force and the relationship between the velocity and fields.
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Homework Statement



The motion of a charged particle P, observed in an inertial frame S. It is found that P moves with constant velocity v through a region of space where there is a uniform electric field E and a uniform magnetic field B. The speed v = |v|and the field magnitudes E = |E| and B = |B| are all non-vanishing.

Show that v.E =0.

Show that E.B =0.

Show that v ≥ E/B.


dont know how to start this.Need help.
 
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imy786 said:

Homework Statement



The motion of a charged particle P, observed in an inertial frame S. It is found that P moves with constant velocity v through a region of space where there is a uniform electric field E and a uniform magnetic field B. The speed v = |v|and the field magnitudes E = |E| and B = |B| are all non-vanishing.

Show that v.E =0.

Show that E.B =0.

Show that v ≥ E/B.


dont know how to start this.Need help.

As someone told you in the other thread, the first thing to realize is what it means to say that the velocity is constant. What does it imply for the electric and magnetice force?

Then, to answer the first two questions, it is possible to either prove the answers using words only, by talking aboutthe direction of the forces and so on (using the fact that the magnetic force is always perpendicular to the velocity of the charge). Or they can be answered using algebra only and using the obvious identity [itex] {\vec A} \cdot ({\vec A} \times {\vec B}) = 0[/itex] for any two vectors A and B.
For the third question, just write the condition on the magnitudes of the forces and isolate v. The answer will contain a sin theta and since theta may vary from 0 to 180 degrees, you will find that [itex] v \leq E/B [/itex] as stated.

Btw, this should have been posted in the introductory physics forum, probably.

Regards
 
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nrged- thanks for the advice,

so why do you think is introductory level.

What level do you think this is? college/ high school/under/ grad/phd?
 
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imy786 said:
nrged- thanks for the advice,

so why do you think is introductory level.

What level do you think this is? college/ high school/under/ grad/phd?
This material is usually covered in high school physics and freshman year of college. Read some of the other advanced level threads for comparison.
 

Related to Lorentz Force Part 2: Proving v.E = 0, E.B = 0, v ≥ E/B

What is Lorentz Force Part 2?

Lorentz Force Part 2 is a continuation of the study of Lorentz Force, which is the force experienced by a charged particle in an electromagnetic field. This part specifically focuses on proving the equations v.E = 0, E.B = 0, and v ≥ E/B, which are fundamental in understanding the behavior of charged particles in electromagnetic fields.

What is the significance of proving v.E = 0, E.B = 0, and v ≥ E/B?

These equations are crucial in understanding the behavior of charged particles in electromagnetic fields. They help us understand the relationship between the electric and magnetic fields, and how a particle's velocity affects its interaction with these fields. They also have practical applications in areas such as particle accelerators and electric motors.

How is v.E = 0 proven?

v.E = 0 is proven by considering the Lorentz force equation and the definition of electric field. By substituting the Lorentz force equation into the definition of electric field, we can manipulate the equations to show that v.E is equal to zero.

How is E.B = 0 proven?

E.B = 0 is proven by using the definition of magnetic field and the Lorentz force equation. Similar to the proof of v.E = 0, we can substitute the Lorentz force equation into the definition of magnetic field and manipulate the equations to show that E.B is equal to zero.

How is v ≥ E/B proven?

v ≥ E/B is proven by analyzing the direction of the Lorentz force and the relationship between the velocity, electric field, and magnetic field. By considering different cases and using vector algebra, we can prove that the velocity of a charged particle must be greater than or equal to the ratio of the electric and magnetic fields.

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