I Is the Lorentz group non-compact?

[Silviu]

Hello! I need to show that Lorentz Group is non compact, but has 4 connected components. The way I was thinking to do it is to write the relation between the elements of the 4x4 matrices and based on that, associated it with a known topological space, based on the determinant and the value of the (0,0). However if I am not wrong it would be a 16 dimensional space, so I kinda got scared. I assume there is an easier way. Can someone help me a bit, give send me a link with the proof? Thank you!

 

[jim mcnamara]

If you were to explicitly state the problem - a little more formally please - it might help. I do not know an answer, but fine tuning the question always seems to help. Thanks.

 

[fresh_42]

Hint: Consider the orbit of some vector.

 

[WWGD]

I assume you see a matrix as an element of $\mathbb R^{n^2}$? If so, then you just need to show closedness and boundedness. Otherwise, please explain.

 

[George Jones]

Hello! I need to show that Lorentz Group is non compact

I assume you see a matrix as an element of $\mathbb R^{n^2}$? If so, then you just need to show closedness and boundedness. Otherwise, please explain.

So (by Heine-Borel) a subset of $\mathbb R^{16}$ that is not(closed and bounded) needs to be found, e.g., the set of boosts in the x direction.

 

[WWGD]

So (by Heine-Borel) a subset of $\mathbb R^{16}$ that is not(closed and bounded) needs to be found, e.g., the set of boosts in the x direction.

And notice, since projection operator is continuous, if subset is compact, its projection to any coordinate must also be compact -- closed and bounded.

 

[samalkhaiat]

Hello! I need to show that Lorentz Group is non compact, but has 4 connected components. The way I was thinking to do it is to write the relation between the elements of the 4x4 matrices and based on that, associated it with a known topological space, based on the determinant and the value of the (0,0). However if I am not wrong it would be a 16 dimensional space, so I kinda got scared. I assume there is an easier way. Can someone help me a bit, give send me a link with the proof? Thank you!

A Lie group is called compact if it is compact as a manifold. For example, SU(2) is compact because (topologically) it can be identified with the 3-sphere S^{3} which is compact. The Lorentz group SO(1,3) is not compact because it can “essentially” be written as a product of the non-compact space (of boosts) \mathbb{R}^{3} with the compact space (of rotations) S^{3}: SO(1,3) \cong SL(2 , \mathbb{C}) / \mathbb{Z}_{2} \cong \mathbb{R}^{3} \times S^{3} / \mathbb{Z}_{2} \ .

The proper mathematical proof goes as follow: Recall that a subset \mathcal{U} of \mathbb{R}^{n} is compact if and only if, it is closed and bounded, i.e., if and only if, for every sequence a_{m} \in \mathcal{U} \subset \mathbb{R}^{n}, there exists a subsequence which converges to some a \in \mathcal{U}. For simplicity, consider the 2-dimensional Lorentz group SO(1,1). Define a sequence of elements \Lambda_{m} \in SO(1,1) by \Lambda_{m} = \begin{pmatrix} \cosh (m) & \sinh (m) \\ \sinh (m) & \cosh (m) \end{pmatrix} \ . Now, since the components of \Lambda_{m} are unbounded, it follows that \Lambda_{m} cannot have convergent subsequence. Thus, SO(1,1) is a non-compact Lie group.

 

[WWGD]

A Lie group is called compact if it is compact as a manifold. For example, SU(2) is compact because (topologically) it can be identified with the 3-sphere S^{3} which is compact. The Lorentz group SO(1,3) is not compact because it can “essentially” be written as a product of the non-compact space (of boosts) \mathbb{R}^{3} with the compact space (of rotations) S^{3}: SO(1,3) \cong SL(2 , \mathbb{C}) / \mathbb{Z}_{2} \cong \mathbb{R}^{3} \times S^{3} / \mathbb{Z}_{2} \ .

The proper mathematical proof goes as follow: Recall that a subset \mathcal{U} of \mathbb{R}^{n} is compact if and only if, it is closed and bounded, i.e., if and only if, for every sequence a_{m} \in \mathcal{U} \subset \mathbb{R}^{n}, there exists a subsequence which converges to some a \in \mathcal{U}. For simplicity, consider the 2-dimensional Lorentz group SO(1,1). Define a sequence of elements \Lambda_{m} \in SO(1,1) by \Lambda_{m} = \begin{pmatrix} \cosh (m) & \sinh (m) \\ \sinh (m) & \cosh (m) \end{pmatrix} \ . Now, since the components of \Lambda_{m} are unbounded, it follows that \Lambda_{m} cannot have convergent subsequence. Thus, SO(1,1) is a non-compact Lie group.

Nice. You can also argue that if the product $\mathbb R^3 \times \mathbb Z/2$ were compact, then, using the projection map ( given it is continuous), projection onto first component $\mathbb R^3$ would also be compact.