M2: moments when forces are not perpendicular

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a smooth uniform rod AB, pivoted at point A, with a weight of 2w and a light ring sliding along the rod. In equilibrium, the string attached to the ring is at right angles to the rod, and the angle theta that the rod makes with the vertical is determined to be tan(theta) = 4/3. The force of the pivot on the rod A can be expressed in terms of w, with the tension in the string calculated as 2w sin(theta). Participants clarified the relationship between the tension and the weight in equilibrium.

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Homework Statement



A smooth uniform rod AB, of length 3a and weight 2w, is pivoted at A so that it can rotate in a vertical plane. A light ring is free to slide along the rod. A light inextensible string is attached to the ring and passes over a fixed smooth peg at a point C, a height 4a above A, and carries a particle of weight w hanging freely.
a) Give reasons why in equilibrium, the string will be at right angles to the rod.
b) show that the angle theta that the rod makes to the vertical in equilibrium is given by tan theta= 4/3
c) Find the magnitude of the force of the pivot on the rod A in terms of w.

Homework Equations



Moment stuff like M= Fd and in equil., total anticlockwise moments= total clockwise moments.

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I drew a diagram.
For part b, I tried doing moments around A to get Tension in the string= 2w sin theta.
When I did sohcahtoa, I got tan theta= 4w sin theta/3a.

And basically, I'm confused.
Help would be appreciated!
Thanks!
 
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Hi pianogirl! :smile:
pianogirl said:
For part b, I tried doing moments around A to get Tension in the string= 2w sin theta.

How did you get this? :confused: The tension holding the weight w in equilibrium is just w.
 
Oh yeah! Totally forgot that. Thanks! Will try again!
 

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