Magnetic field and current of solid wire

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a solid conducting wire with a non-constant current density. The user faced issues with inputting answers on MasteringPhysics due to case sensitivity and incorrect integration methods. Participants clarified that to find the total current, integration over the area is necessary, as the current density varies with distance from the wire's center. They also discussed the importance of using the circumference in the integration process to accurately calculate the area. The user successfully solved parts B and C of the problem with guidance from others in the thread.
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Homework Statement


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This is also a problem on my Masteringphysics:

A solid conducting wire of radius runs parallel to the axis and carries a current density given by J=J(0) * (1 - r/R)\hat{k} , where J(0) is a constant and r is the radial distance from the wire axis.

The parts are the same as in the textbook.


Homework Equations


biot savart law

J=I/A


The Attempt at a Solution



I haven't answered part B, or C yet.

ok, when I'm entering my answer for part A on masteringphysics, it keeps telling me "variables are case senstive, make sure that you have the right case on your variables." I've switched them around, and it keeps saying the same thing.

Anyway, my simplified answer is J(0)pi*R^{2}(1-\frac{r}{R})


Since J is the current density of the wire, the current is just J*Area, right? That's basically what I'm doing, but something is off. Any help would be great.

Thanks
 
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Why does your answer for total current have an r in it?

You have to integrate to find the total current, since the current density is not constant.
 
Since the density is not constant in the wire (depends on the distance from the center), I guess you will need to integrate over the area instead of just mupliplying. Btw, what is ^k?
 
Kurret said:
Since the density is not constant in the wire (depends on the distance from the center), I guess you will need to integrate over the area instead of just mupliplying. Btw, what is ^k?

it's \hat{k}, the vector direction.
 
Doc Al said:
Why does your answer for total current have an r in it?

You have to integrate to find the total current, since the current density is not constant.

ok, so i integrate from 0 to R in the given formula and i get

J = J(0)*\frac{R}{2} = \frac{I}{A} -->

I = J(0)*(piR^3/2)


??
 
That's not correct. Show how you did the integration:
I = \int J dA
 
Doc Al said:
That's not correct. Show how you did the integration:
I = \int J dA

ok, i actually integrated only J from 0 to R then multiplied by the area after the integration. So i'll integrate what you said.

so DA = (pi*r)dr ??
 
gills said:
so DA = (pi*r)dr ??
Almost. What's the circumference of a circle?
 
Doc Al said:
Almost. What's the circumference of a circle?

circumference is 2pi*r

Would dA be 2pi*r dr?

why the need for the circumference?
 
  • #10
gills said:
circumference is 2pi*r

Would dA be 2pi*r dr?
Yes.

why the need for the circumference?
Because you dividing the disk into circular rings so you can integrate.
 
  • #11
Doc Al said:
Yes.


Because you dividing the disk into circular rings so you can integrate.

ahhh indeed!

i've got I = J(0)*((pi*R^2)/3))
 
  • #12
Looks good!
 
  • #13
Doc Al said:
Looks good!

it's correct, thank you..

For part B, using ampere's Law i came up with (\mu(0)*J(0)*R^2)/6r which came out to be correct.

Now for part C, do i need to integrate again since the current surrounded will not be from the whole wire? or I'm just replacing R with r for the total current now because the amperian line is inside the wire?
 
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  • #14
gills said:
Now for part C, do i need to integrate again since the current surrounded will not be from the whole wire?
Yes.
or I'm just replacing R with r for the total current now...
Not sure what you mean... but don't do it! :wink:
 
  • #15
Doc Al said:
Yes.

Not sure what you mean... but don't do it! :wink:

gotcha, haha. Thanks for the help, i'll let you know if i get it.
 
  • #16
SOLVED!

thanks (again) Doc
 
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