Magnetic Field at the centre of Spiral

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The problem involves calculating the magnetic induction at the center of a spiral formed by a thin insulated wire carrying a current. The spiral has a specified number of turns and radii for the inner and outer turns.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of turns per unit width and the magnetic field due to the spiral. There are attempts to integrate the magnetic field contributions from each loop of the spiral, with some questioning the correctness of unit conversions and the presence of logarithmic terms in the final expression.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing corrections and others expressing uncertainty about their calculations. There is no clear consensus on the final answer, and multiple interpretations of the results are being explored.

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There are indications of potential errors in unit conversions and the integration process, as well as references to previous questions that remain unanswered.

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A thin insulated wire forms a plane spiral of N = 100 tight turns, carrying a current I = 8 mA. The radii of inside and outside turns are equal to a = 50 mm and b = 100 mm.

Find the magnetic induction at the centre of the spiral and the magnetic moment of the spiral with the given current.


This problem I searched all over but nowhere I could found any answer. Hope I'll be helped.

The figure of planar spiral is given with inner radius and outer radius as mentioned, in case anybody needs a diagram.

I first calculated the no. of turns per unit width, that would be [tex]n=\frac{N}{(100-50)mm} = 2000\;turns/m[/tex]

I know the magnetic field due to a current carrying loop with n turns,[tex]B = \frac{\mu _0ni}{2r}[/tex]

I considered a loop out of spiral of radius r and width dr, thus the total magnetic field would be the summation of all the loops from inner radius to outer radius.[tex]\int \mathrm{d}B=\int_{0.05}^{0.1} \frac{\mu _0ni}{2r}\mathrm{d}r[/tex]

I tried to calculate but I dodged the answer from a long mile, the answer is [itex]7\; \mu T[/itex]

Any Help appreciated. And if anybody do not mind, I would also like to get my question asked no too long ago answered too. https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=641032
 
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AGNuke said:
I first calculated the no. of turns per unit width, that would be [tex]n=\frac{N}{(100-50)mm} = 0.002\;turns/m[/tex]

Watch your unit conversion here. Otherwise, everything looks good.
 
Its not about unit conversion. I had all done correct. The expression after integration was including ln2, which is not present in the answer.

Even if I substituted the value of pi or ln2, my answer was really off.
 
Your answer for n says that there are only .002 turns of wire in a radial distance of 1 meter. But you know that you have 100 turns in only 50 mm of distance.
 
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Extremely sorry. Its 2000 turns/m. And the answer I got is 6.4 microTesla.[tex]B=\frac{\mu _0ni}{2}\mathrm{ln}2[/tex]
 
AGNuke said:
Extremely sorry. Its 2000 turns/m. And the answer I got is 6.4 microTesla.[tex]B=\frac{\mu _0ni}{2}\mathrm{ln}2[/tex]

Your expression for the answer looks correct. I don't get 6.4 microTesla.
 
Yeah... I got something like 6.96. Maybe my calculator was malfunctioning and I didn't bothered to recalculate it on Computer. Fault on my part.

Can you look at the question I posted long before, unfortunately no one has entertained it as of yet - https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=641032
 

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