Magnetic moment of a solid, uniformly charged ball

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The problem involves determining the relationship between the magnetic moment and angular momentum of a solid spherical ball with a uniformly distributed charge, specifically focusing on the calculation of the magnetic moment as the ball rotates.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of splitting the sphere into thin segments to calculate the magnetic moment, questioning the expressions for area and current used in the calculations. There is an exploration of the correct area for the magnetic moment calculation and the implications of using different geometrical interpretations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the geometric considerations involved in the problem. Some have expressed confusion about the area calculations and are seeking to understand the relationship between the radius of the segments and the angles involved.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement and are attempting to reconcile their calculations with expected results. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of formulas related to magnetic moments and areas in spherical coordinates.

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Homework Statement


Show for a solid spherical ball of mass m rotating through its centre with a charge q uniformly distributed on the surface of the ball that the magnetic moment μ is related to the angular momentum L by the relation:

\textbf{μ} = \frac{5q}{6mc}\textbf{L}

Homework Equations



μ = IA
I = \frac{2}{5}MR^2
σ = \frac{q}{4πR^2}
\frac{1}{T} = \frac{ω}{2π}

The Attempt at a Solution



Split sphere into thin segments, each one has magnetic moment:

dμ = dI \cdot dA

where dA is the area enclosed by the segment:

dA = 2π r dr

The current dI on each segment is:

dI = \frac{dq}{T} = \frac{ω}{2π} dq

The charge on each segment is:

dq = σ da

Where da is the surface area of the segment:

da = r^2\sinθ dθ d\phi

This results in
dq = σ \cdot r^2\sinθ dθ d\phi = \frac{q}{4πR^2} r^2\sinθ dθ d\phi

We now have an expression for dI:

dI = \frac{ωqr^2\sinθ}{8π^2R^2} dθ d\phi

Now we can calculate the moment of each segment:

dμ = \frac{ωqr^2\sinθ}{8π^2R^2} 2πr dr d\phi dθ

Integrating this over the whole sphere gives

μ = \frac{ωq}{4πR^2} \int^{R}_{0} r^3 dr \int^{π}_{0} \sinθ dθ \int^{2π}_{0} d\phi

μ = \frac{wqR^2}{8}

Obviously this is not correct, the answer I should be getting is

μ = \frac{wqR^2}{3}

Where am I going wrong?
 
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six7th said:
Split sphere into thin segments, each one has magnetic moment:

dμ = dI \cdot dA

where dA is the area enclosed by the segment:

dA = 2π r dr

Is that the correct expression for the area enclosed? Can you describe the area that you are talking about? Did you make a sketch?
 
For a normal loop of wire, A would be the area inside the loop so in this case dA is the area bounded by the surface, da, of the thin segment. I have tried using the volume of the segments but the equation for magnetic moments requires an area, so I couldn't see how this would work.

Edit: I have seen on similar problems that the radius of each segment is rsinθ making the area enclosed:

A = πr^2\sin^2θ

This may be where I am going wrong but I am struggling to see why the radius is rsinθ
 
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The area enclosed by a circular strip on the sphere is shown in yellow in the figure. Can you express that area in terms of R and θ?
 

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I see it now, thank you!

The radius of the segment is just simple trigonometry,

r = R\sinθ

So the area now becomes:

A = πR^2 \sin^2θ
 
Good.
 
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