Masses Over a Uniform Cylindrical Pulley

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a uniform cylindrical pulley and two masses. The moment of inertia for the cylinder was calculated as I=0.352, and the gravitational force on the mass pulling down was determined to be 470.4N. The potential energy of the mass was calculated to be 1176 J, but there is uncertainty about how to incorporate the effects of torque and the pulley’s properties on the system. The suggestion is to consider all forms of energy involved and to clarify how the calculated moment of inertia influences the overall dynamics. The conversation emphasizes the importance of energy considerations in solving the problem.
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ηϖ1. Homework Statement
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Homework Equations


I=½MR2
PE=mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing that jumped out at me was "uniform cylinder" so I went ahead and calculated the moment of inertia for the cylinder and got I=½(4.4)(.4)2 = .352 and held onto that.

Then, I calculated the forces due to gravity of each mass that is pulling down on the string.
Fmb = 48kg×9.8m/s2 = 470.4N
I'm not sure if I do the same for ma because it's resting on the table, so is there a force pulling on the string creating tension?

But the next thing I did was find the gravitational potential energy of mb:
PE = mgh = 48kg×9.8m/s2×2.5m = 1176 J.

I'm not sure if torque is needed, but I went ahead and calculated it anyways:

T=F×r = 470.4N×.4m = 188.16

And that is all I can think to do. I'm not sure how the radius, inertia, mass, and other properties of the pulley affect the masses A and B that move up and down via the string over that pulley.

Could I take the 1176 J of potential energy and set it equal to ½mv2? But what mass would I use? Mass of the system (A + B)? Solve for V? That seems too simple for this section, because we are learning about angular kinematics, torque...etc. I think I'm missing something.

Thank you for your time and advice!
 
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Hi there,

The hint in the exercise is pretty clear: use energy considerations. So list off all the energies (my clue: there's more than you mentioned so far, but you are thinking in the right direction) at t=0 at at t = bump.

Extra tip: does the ##\bf I## you calculated have any influence ? (Imagine a huge R0 to decide)
 
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