Why Isn't the String's Mass Included in Block B's Tension?

In summary, the conversation discusses a diagram with two blocks connected by a massless string on a frictionless surface. A force F is applied to Block A. The question asks for the acceleration of Block B if the string had a mass of m. The attempt at a solution involves adding the string's mass to the tension on Block B, but the answer key states that the string's mass is included in the overall force on all three masses. The conversation continues with a discussion of the tension change along the string's length and whether the string's mass affects Newton's 2nd law equation for Block B.
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Homework Statement


MLD_1d_2_a.jpg

In the diagram above, a massless string connects two blocks- of masses m1(left) and m2(right), respectively- on a flat frictionless tabletop. A force F pulls on Block A, as shown.

If the string connecting the blocks were not massless, but instead had a mass of m, figure out the acceleration of block B.

Homework Equations


F = ma
Ft for block B = ma
F-Ft for block A = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to stick the string's mass to the Ft for block b, and got the right answer, but the concept is wrong. The answer key says that the F to the very right just pulls on the string's mass, block A's mass, and block B's mass all together.

Why is the mass of string not included in the block B's tension to the right?
 
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516aldnsdhfl said:

Homework Statement


MLD_1d_2_a.jpg

In the diagram above, a massless string connects two blocks- of masses m1(left) and m2(right), respectively- on a flat frictionless tabletop. A force F pulls on Block A, as shown.

If the string connecting the blocks were not massless, but instead had a mass of m, figure out the acceleration of block B.

Homework Equations


F = ma
Ft for block B = ma
F-Ft for block A = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to stick the string's mass to the Ft for block b, and got the right answer, but the concept is wrong. The answer key says that the F to the very right just pulls on the string's mass, block A's mass, and block B's mass all together.

Why is the mass of string not included in the block B's tension to the right?
What you are calling Ft for block B and Ft for block A are not the same (there must be a tension change along the length of the string with mass). Draw a free body diagram of Block B alone. Does the mass of the string enter into Newton's 2nd law equation?
 

FAQ: Why Isn't the String's Mass Included in Block B's Tension?

1. What is the "Massive string tension problem"?

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The "Massive string tension problem" is a significant obstacle in fully understanding the fundamental nature of the universe. It prevents us from having a complete and consistent theory that unifies all the forces of nature, including gravity.

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The "Massive string tension problem" has been a major challenge in the development of string theory and has led to the exploration of alternative theories and approaches. It has also highlighted the need for more experimental evidence and further advancements in technology to fully understand the nature of string theory.

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