Math Triangle-inequality problem

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The discussion centers on proving the triangle inequality for real values of x and y, specifically the statement | |x|-|y| | <= |x+y| <= |x| + |y|. Participants suggest using properties of absolute values and the triangle inequality itself to construct the proof. There is debate about whether the triangle inequality can be used in the proof, with some suggesting alternative methods such as considering cases for positive and negative values or using trigonometry. One participant expresses confidence in their understanding of the proof, while another points out a logical error in the approach taken. The conversation highlights the complexity of proving mathematical inequalities and the various strategies that can be employed.
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prove that for any real values of x,y
| |x|-|y| | <= |x+y| <= |x| + |y|
 
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Well try using these properties :

1) |x| <= a then -a <= x <= a
2) in order to loose the ||-signs make a distinction for |x| when x > 0 and x < 0
If x > 0 then |x| = x
if x < 0 then |x| = -x
3) Triangle-inequality : |x| - |y| <= |x + y| <= |x| + |y|

I am not saying you will need all this properties, only some of them will do to make your proof. How would you start ? You have all the necessary "ingredients" when it comes to the ||-properties

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marlon
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ok i think i got it now
| |x|-|y| | <= |x+y| <= |x|+|y|

ill mark |x+y| as "a"

| |x|-|y| | <= a
then
|x|-|y| <= a
which gives
|x|-|y| <= |x+y| <= |x|+|y|
and by triangle inequality we can see that this statement is correct.

thanks for your help i completely forgot those inequality rules :smile:
 
The question is basically asking you to prove the triangle inequality.

I doubt that you'd be allowed to used the triangle inequality to prove the same.

You can prove it either by considering the 4 cases where x and y are positive and negative reals, or using trigonometry (cosine rule) to prove it in the general case of complex numbers, which would automatically make it true in the reals.
 
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Good point by Gokul...

Can you use the triangle identity yes or no? If not, there is a nice way to prove the triangle-identity but it is usually given as theory...there different proofs of different levels using different "kinds" of math

marlon
 
im pretty sure I am allowed to use it but in any case i know how to prove it thank you guys :smile:
 
| |x|-|y| | <= a
then
|x|-|y| <= a
which gives
|x|-|y| <= |x+y| <= |x|+|y|

You've done things backwards! You used | |x|-|y| | <= a to prove |x|-|y| <= |x+y|, but your goal was to prove | |x|-|y| | <= a, not |x|-|y| <= |x+y|.
 
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