Mathematica Mathematica : Will not perform integral

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a specific mathematical expression involving energy (E) and mass (m). The original integral posed by the user is complex and initially unmanageable by Mathematica, despite being well-behaved. A solution is provided by Simon, who suggests a substitution of variables, specifically x = ml^2/El^2, which simplifies the integrand significantly. This transformation allows the integral to be expressed in a more manageable form, leading to a closed-form solution. Simon also shares the resulting integral expression and mentions that he has attached a notebook for further reference. The conversation highlights the importance of variable substitution in tackling challenging integrals.
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I wish to integrate:
<br /> \int dE \frac{\sqrt{E^2-m^2}}{E} \log \left(\frac{E-\sqrt{E^2-m^2}}{E+\sqrt{E^2-m^2}} \right)

Integrate[ Sqrt[(El - m) (El + m)]/El Log[( (El -Sqrt[(El - ml) (El + ml)])/ (Sqrt[(El - ml) (El + ml)] + El))], El]

But it won't do it. Anyone have any ideas as to why? I've set the assumptions
$Assumptions = ml >= 0 && El >= ml

Is this just an impossible integral? It seems well behaved.
 
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Hi Hepth,

Just because an integral is well behaved, doesn't mean that it's integrable in a nice closed form. Luckily, for your integral, all Mathematica needs is a little hand holding.

By writing x = ml^2/El^2, you can make the integrand look like

Sqrt[1 - x] Log[(1 - Sqrt[1 - x])/(1 + Sqrt[1 - x])]

This is easily checked in Mma using your assumptions.
The integral of the above integrand is

2/3 (1-x+Log[1-Sqrt[1-x]]-(1-x)^(3/2) Log[(1-Sqrt[1-x])/(1+Sqrt[1-x])]+Log[1+Sqrt[1-x]])

I've attached the notebook to this thread,

Simon
 

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