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The discussion revolves around understanding the relationship between the volumes and surface areas of geometrically similar objects, specifically in the context of a problem involving two containers with given volume ratios. Participants explore how scaling dimensions affects these properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of volume ratios and how they relate to surface area and height ratios. There are attempts to simplify the volume ratio and questions about the correctness of assumptions regarding the relationships between these ratios.

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Several hints and suggestions have been offered to guide the original poster, including considering simpler shapes and exploring the implications of the volume ratio. Participants are engaging with the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or a clear resolution.

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Participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the problem, indicating a lack of clarity on the relationships between the dimensions of the objects involved. There are also references to the original poster's struggles with similar types of questions in the past.

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I tried cross multiplying but obviously that is not the case. These types of questions are the ones I always lose marks in. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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How do volume and surface area change if you make an object twice as long/high/thick?
Based on that, what is the scale factor in your problem?
 
I'm not sure how to find out, I'm really sorry. All I know:

volume of larger container : volume of smaller container
3456 : 1458
Simplified:
64 : 27

Which is where I got stuck. I don't know what to do from there.
 
If working with weird flask shapes makes you uncomfortable, try doing the same with two cubes. As long as the two bodies are mathematically similar, it shouldn't matter to us. See if that helps.
 
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zeldaspurpose said:
I'm not sure how to find out, I'm really sorry. All I know:

volume of larger container : volume of smaller container
3456 : 1458
Simplified:
64 : 27

Which is where I got stuck. I don't know what to do from there.

Another hint:

If the ratio of volumes is 64:27, and if you think the ratio of surface areas should be 64:27, do you think the ratio of heights should be 64:27 as well?
 
PeroK said:
Another hint:

If the ratio of volumes is 64:27, and if you think the ratio of surface areas should be 64:27, do you think the ratio of heights should be 64:27 as well?
And to make an extreme example: an adult human has about 3 to 4 times the height of a newborn baby. How would an adult look like with 3 to 4 times the mass of a newborn baby?
 
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And once you get the principle, noticed that some arithmetical simplifications are offered in the numbers given you. (They could even point you the way, but not unambiguously.)
 
mfb said:
And to make an extreme example: an adult human has about 3 to 4 times the height of a newborn baby. How would an adult look like with 3 to 4 times the mass of a newborn baby?

God @mfb ! Now that visual isn't leaving my head for the next two hours.

I hope the OP understood.
 
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CrazyNinja said:
God @mfb ! Now that visual isn't leaving my head for the next two hours.
I thought about using the opposite direction but that didn't make it better.
 
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