Matrix for transforming vector components under rotation

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The discussion focuses on the transformation of vector components under rotation using a matrix L, specifically in the context of a problem from "Riley, Hobson and Bence." The matrix L is defined as mapping unprimed basis vectors to primed basis vectors in a three-dimensional space, with the equation x'_{i} = L_{ij} x_{j}. The confusion arises when the user attempts to apply the transformation, discovering that the matrix used is the inverse of the required transformation matrix. The correct approach involves using the inverse matrix when transitioning from the primed to unprimed basis.

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Say we have a matrix L that maps vector components from an unprimed basis to a rotated primed basis according to the rule x'_{i} = L_{ij} x_{j}. x'_i is the ith component in the primed basis and x_{j} the j th component in the original unprimed basis. Now x'_{i} = \overline{e}'_i. \overline{x} = \overline{e}'_i. \overline{e}_j x_{j}. Hence L_{ij} = \overline{e}'_i. \overline{e}_j. Thus the matrix equation relating the primed co-ordinate system to the unprimed one in \mathbb{R}^3 is

$$ \begin{pmatrix}x'_{1}\\ x'_{2}\\ x'_{3} \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} \overline{e}'_1. \overline{e}_1 & \overline{e}'_1. \overline{e}_2 & \overline{e}'_1. \overline{e}_3\\ \overline{e}'_2. \overline{e}_1 & \overline{e}'_2. \overline{e}_2 & \overline{e}'_2. \overline{e}_1 \\ \overline{e}'_3. \overline{e}_1 & \overline{e}'_3. \overline{e}_2 & \overline{e}'_3. \overline{e}_3 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}x_{1}\\ x_{2}\\ x_{3} \end{pmatrix} $$

Where the \overline{e}'_is and \overline{e}_js are unit basis vectors in the primed and unprimed co ordinate systems respectively.

Now I tried to apply the above idea to the following situation (Riley, Hobson and Bence Chapter 26, Problem 2).

I took \mathbf{A} = \overline{e}_1 and \mathbf{B} = \overline{e}_2. It turns out that the matrix that transforms \mathbf{A} \rightarrow \mathbf{A}' and \mathbf{B} \rightarrow \mathbf{B}' is not the matrix that transforms the unprimed components to the primed components (that I used above) but the INVERSE (or transpose) of that matrix. I need to know where I am going wrong here. Thank you.
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I am not sure I understand your question, but if you want to go in the opposite direction, you use the inverse matrix. Was that the question?
 
WWGD said:
I am not sure I understand your question, but if you want to go in the opposite direction, you use the inverse matrix. Was that the question?

In the original frame,
\mathbf{A} = \begin{pmatrix} 1 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{pmatrix}

and in the rotated frame, the components of \mathbf{A} are given by \mathbf{A&#039;} = \begin{pmatrix} \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> \frac{1}{2}<br /> \end{pmatrix}

and

in the original frame, \mathbf{B} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{pmatrix}

and in the rotated frame, the components of \mathbf{B} are given by \mathbf{B&#039;} = \begin{pmatrix} -\frac{{1}}{2} \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}<br /> \end{pmatrix}

I want to find the matrix that gives you the components of any vector in the rotated frame if you have the components in the original frame. In other words, I want the matrix \mathbf{L} such that \mathbf{x&#039;} = \mathbf{L} \mathbf{x}. Now from tensor analysis, we know that the L_{ij} = e&#039;_i.e_j where e&#039;_i = ith basis vector in rotated frame and e_j = jth basis vector in original frame. I let e_1 = \mathbf{A}, e&#039;_1 = \mathbf{A&#039;}, e_2 = \mathbf{B} and e&#039;_2 = \mathbf{B&#039;}
And in the original frame, \mathbf{e_3} = \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{pmatrix}

And in the rotated frame,

\mathbf{e_3}&#039; = \begin{pmatrix}<br /> a \\<br /> b \\<br /> c<br /> \end{pmatrix}I used the fact that \mathbf{L} has a determinant of 1 and that it has orthonormal rows to find a,b and c.

\mathbf{L} = \begin{pmatrix} \overline{e}&#039;_1. \overline{e}_1 &amp; \overline{e}&#039;_1. \overline{e}_2 &amp; \overline{e}&#039;_1. \overline{e}_3\\ \overline{e}&#039;_2. \overline{e}_1 &amp; \overline{e}&#039;_2. \overline{e}_2 &amp; \overline{e}&#039;_2. \overline{e}_1 \\ \overline{e}&#039;_3. \overline{e}_1 &amp; \overline{e}&#039;_3. \overline{e}_2 &amp; \overline{e}&#039;_3. \overline{e}_3 \end{pmatrix} = \frac{1}{2} \begin{pmatrix} \sqrt{3} &amp; 0 &amp; 1 \\ -1 &amp; 0 &amp; \sqrt{3}\\ 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0\end{pmatrix}

This, however, is not the correct matrix. It is the INVERSE of the correct matrix. Where am I going wrong?
 
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