Max Input Signal: 0.3V for 1.5mA Collector Current

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The discussion centers around calculating the necessary input signal voltage for a transistor to achieve a collector current of 1.5 mA, given that a 1V change in base voltage results in a 5 mA collector current. It establishes that a 0.3V input signal is required to produce the desired collector current, but questions arise regarding the interpretation of the 1V change in base-emitter voltage (VBE). Participants clarify that VBE is not constant in small signal analysis and can vary, leading to confusion about the expected input voltage. The conversation also touches on discrepancies between calculated values and textbook answers, suggesting that the textbook may refer to peak or RMS values, which complicates the understanding of the circuit's operation. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities of transistor biasing and signal analysis in circuit design.
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Now, the input circuit is also biased as the transistor to work in the active region and without the biasing of the input circuit , the input circuit may get reversed biased during the negative half cycle of the signal voltage. Due to this bias, there should be some base current say## I_{bB}##.The minimum value of ##I_{bB}## should be such that (taking the maximum current due to the signal voltage in positive half cycle as ##I_{signal}## ) ##I_{signal} + I_{bB} = 30~μA## and in the negative half cycle ##-I_{signal} + I_{bB} = 0## .
This gives ##I_{bB} = I_{signal} = 15μA##
Similarly, the collector current due to the signal voltage alone is 1.5 mA.

Now, it is given that 1V change in base voltage,i.e. 1V of signal voltage gives 5 mA of collector current.
So, for giving 1.5 mA of collector current, the signal voltage should be ##\frac{1.5} 5 = 0.3~V##.
Is this correct?
Why does the question say that ##V_{BE}## gets changed by 1V.
Isn't ##V_{BE}## always 0.7V for sillicon transistor?

Is it necessary that I shoud specify input signal into voltage, not current?
 
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Pushoam said:
Why does the question say that VBEVBEV_{BE} gets changed by 1V.
Isn't VBEVBEV_{BE} always 0.7V for sillicon transistor?
No, not in small signal analysis. In this case,
a linear approximation of the exponential diode equation is used, which gives id=kVd.
(This approximation holds as long as the signal is small.)
 
Pushoam said:
So, for giving 1.5 mA of collector current, the signal voltage should be 1.55=0.3 V1.55=0.3 V\frac{1.5} 5 = 0.3~V.
Is this correct?
What about this?
My book says that the answer is 0.6V.
 
I think they meant the peak input voltage. So the answer makes no sense since 0.6V < 1V knee.
And if they meant rms input voltage that = √2(0.6) = 0.85V which is still below the knee.

So assuming the former case I think they meant the answer to be 1.6V (or 0.6V above the knee) since that would give a dc collector current of (1.6 - 1.0) * 5mA/V = 12V/4K = 3mA.
Why do you think you were given beta BTW?
 
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