Maximizing Angular Velocity of a DC Motor: A Capacitor-Motor Circuit Analysis

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To find the maximum angular velocity of a DC motor in a capacitor-motor circuit, it's crucial to consider energy losses, such as conductive losses in the motor windings and the effects of back electromotive force (back-emf). The proposed equation equating capacitor energy to the motor's kinetic energy is flawed due to these losses. A comprehensive model should include factors like capacitor voltage over time, back-emf, self-induction, motor inertia, and winding resistance. Utilizing Laplace transforms can simplify the analysis, but familiarity with this mathematical tool is necessary for effective modeling. Understanding these concepts is essential for accurately predicting the motor's performance.
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Homework Statement


Hi all I am doing a school physics project and I am trying to find the maximum angular velocity of a DC motor. I have built a circuit consisting of a charged capacitor (of known voltage) and a motor. I then try to predict the maximum angular velocity attained by the motor.

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Is it possible to equate the energy of a capacitor and the kinetic energy of the motor like this?
\frac{1}{2} C V^2=\frac{1}{2}Iɷ^2
can i similarly integrate it to find the angular displacement?

Thanks for the help guys
 
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Jumponright said:
Is it possible to equate the energy of a capacitor and the kinetic energy of the motor like this?
12CV2=12Iɷ2


No, you cannot, because there will be conductive losses in the windings of the motor, and the capacitor will not be completely discharged ( due to the back-emf of the motor ).

You must make a complete model of the capacitor/motor, including:

- Capacitor voltage (t).
- Back emf in the motor.
- Self induction in the motor.
- Motor inertia.
- Resistance in motor windings.

The easiest way is to do this by Laplace transforms.

You know how to do that ?
 
not really, can you explain it? thanks
 
Jumponright said:
can you explain it?
Well, I can explain it ( with some diagrams, and so on ).

But are you familiar with Laplace transforms at all ?

For example: The impedance of a capacitor, ZC(s) = 1/(sC) ?
Or when you ( in time-domain ) integrate a signal, you divide by s in the Laplace domain ?

If you are familiar with that, I can sketch a diagram with an explanation.
 
I have just read a bit on Laplace transforms, I can try to understand it
 
Hesch said:
You must make a complete model of the capacitor/motor, including:

- Capacitor voltage (t).
- Back emf in the motor.
- Self induction in the motor.
- Motor inertia.
- Resistance in motor windings.

Do you have some (realistic) values as for the above? ( also the value of the capacitor ).

I think that an algebraic explanation will be a mess.
 
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