Maximizing Volume of a Container Using Quadratic Equations

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The discussion focuses on maximizing the volume of a container formed by cutting squares from the corners of a rectangular sheet. Participants clarify the derivative of a function related to the problem, confirming that the initial derivative calculation is correct but the substitution needs adjustment. They also address the volume equation derived from the dimensions of the container, noting a sign error in the derivative expression that needs correction. After resolving the quadratic equation, the correct dimensions for the squares to be cut out are determined to be 5 cm, with one solution being rational but inadmissible. The conversation emphasizes careful checking of calculations to arrive at the correct answer.
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I need a little help. Could someone get me started (or tell me what's wrong with what I have)?

1. Show that if y = x^(-1/2), x>o, then y' + y/2x = 0
First I found the derivitive of y, which came to be -1/2 x^(-3/2). Then I added it to y/2x, and substituted the value of y in terms of x, but it didn't work. I'm left with a fraction and nasty exponents.

2. A rectangle is made by cutting out four squares of x cm length from the corners of a 25 cm by 40 cm rectangular sheet of metal and folding the remaining sheet to form the container. What size squares must be cut out in order to maximize the volume of the container?

First, I stated that V= lwh and l= 40-2x, w=25-2x, h= x and, plugging in these values, I found that dV/dx = 1000-260x-12x^2. Then I solved it quadratically and it didn't work.

Could you put me in the right direction? Thanks!
 
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For Question 1, y' + \frac{y}{2x} = 0. This means that you have to show that y' = -\frac{y}{2x} or y' = - \frac{x^{-\frac{1}{2}}}{2x}. This is because y = x^{-\frac{1}{2}}.

You say that you managed to find that y' = -\frac{1}{2}x^{-\frac{3}{2}}. This is correct.

So now you just have to play around with -\frac{1}{2}x^{-\frac{3}{2}} and try to turn it into - \frac{x^-{\frac{1}{2}}}{2x}.
 
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Sombra said:
I need a little help. Could someone get me started (or tell me what's wrong with what I have)?

1. Show that if y = x^(-1/2), x>o, then y' + y/2x = 0
First I found the derivitive of y, which came to be -1/2 x^(-3/2). Then I added it to y/2x, and substituted the value of y in terms of x, but it didn't work. I'm left with a fraction and nasty exponents.

Derivative correct, substitution wrong. Try again, and you should get the right answer.

2. A rectangle is made by cutting out four squares of x cm length from the corners of a 25 cm by 40 cm rectangular sheet of metal and folding the remaining sheet to form the container. What size squares must be cut out in order to maximize the volume of the container?

First, I stated that V= lwh and l= 40-2x, w=25-2x, h= x and, plugging in these values, I found that dV/dx = 1000-260x-12x^2. Then I solved it quadratically and it didn't work.

Could you put me in the right direction? Thanks!

There is a sign wrong in your expression for dV/dx. Fix it and it should be good.
 
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I found that dV/dx = 1000-260x-12x^2.

Check your signs there.

Edit : Nevermind. curious just said the same thing.
 
ok, I got the 1st one. For the second one, I did have the sign right, I just typed it wrong here. I still end up with an irrational quadratic equation.
 
What solution do you get for the quadratic ?
 
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ok, I got the 1st one. For the second one, I did have the sign right, I just typed it wrong here. I still end up with an irrational quadratic equation.

It's nothing of the sort. I get one clean integer solution, the other rational but nonintegral solution is obviously inadmissible. Check your work again.
 
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Hmm. One of my solutions was not an integer; it was rational, though.
 
I too get nice numbers. You can solve quite easily by first taking out tha factor of 4 and then writing 65 = 50 + 15.
 
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recon said:
Hmm. One of my solutions was not an integer; it was rational, though.

Yeah, I mistyped that post, I've edited it.
 
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hmmm I got 5. That seems to work. Thanks!
 
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Wait a minute...where did 5 come from?
 
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I got 5 too...and 50/3, which is inadmissible.
 
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5 is right.
 
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I can barely read my own handwriting...Sorry! :redface:
 
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