Maximum compression of the spring

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The problem involves two blocks with different masses interacting with an ideal massless spring on a frictionless surface. The scenario explores the maximum compression of the spring when one block approaches the other with a given speed.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy and momentum principles to determine the spring constant and maximum compression. Some participants suggest using additional equations, particularly conservation of momentum, to aid in solving the problem.

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The discussion has seen participants exploring various equations and approaches, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations. One participant indicated they resolved their confusion regarding algebraic manipulation, but no explicit consensus on the solution has been reached.

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Participants are working under the constraints of expressing their answers in terms of given quantities and physical constants, and there is an emphasis on using conservation laws in the analysis.

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Homework Statement


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The two blocks I and II shown above have mass of m and 2m respectively. Block II as an ideal massless spring attached to one side. When block I is placed on the spring as shown in figure (a), the spring is compressed a distance D at equilibrium. Express your answer to all parts of this question in terms of the given quantities and the physical constants.

a) Determine the spring constant of the spring.

Latter the two blocks are on frictionless horizontal surface. Block II is stationary and block I approaches with the speed of V, as shown in the figure b,c,d.

b) The spring compression is a maximum when the blocks have the same velocity. Briefly explain why is this so.

c) Determine the maximum compression of the spring during the collision.

d) Determine the velocity of the block II after the collision, when block I has separated from the spring.

Homework Equations


F = kd
conservation of energy equation

The Attempt at a Solution


I have already solved for a), which came out to be k = mg/d.
For c), i used the conservation of energy equation and it came out like this :
PEspi + KEi = PEspf + KEf
(1/2)mvi^2 = (1/2)kx^2 + (1/2)3mvf^2

This is where I'm stuck, I know the answer comes out to be SQRT(2D/3g)Vo, but i can't get there.
 
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You need another equation. And an obvious one can be obtained by thinking about linear momentum of the blocks.
 
Thanks for the reply, I just checked in my book and it also said to use the conservation of momentum equation. Solving for vf, I ended up with:
vf = mvi/3m
plugging it back into the energy equation still doesn't yield the result :(, unless I'm doing it wrong somewhere.
 
aznboi855 said:
unless I'm doing it wrong somewhere.

I think you are. Just double checked it and the equations do yield the answer you mentioned in the first post
 
Nvm, I figured it out, just had some bad algebra.
 

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