Maximum of exponential function

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The discussion revolves around finding the maximum of the exponential function given by the formula m=n*e^(-nt). Participants are exploring whether this can be demonstrated analytically rather than graphically.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the variables involved, particularly the fixed constant "t" and the parameter "n". Questions are raised about the implications of the first derivative at a maximum and theorems that could be applicable for proving the existence of a maximum without graphing. There are attempts to differentiate the function and set the derivative to zero to find critical points.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding differentiation techniques. Some participants express confusion about specific terms in the equation and the process of substitution, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify misunderstandings.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential issues with differentiating the expression correctly and the implications of setting e^(-nt) to zero, which raises questions about the nature of the solutions involved.

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Homework Statement


given the formula m=n*e^(-nt) show that the maximum of this curve is at m=1/(t*e^(1)).

2. The attempt at a solution
I can show this graphically but I am curious if it is possible to do it by hand?
 
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So the "t" here is a fixed but unknown constant and n is the parameter we are adjusting, right? We have a function of one variable and are looking for its maximum value.

If a function has has a maximum, what can we say about its first derivative at that maximum?

If we want to prove that it has a maximum without graphing it, are there any theorems that we might be able to invoke?
 
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If we set it equal to zero and solve that will be our maximum
 
If you write it as ## y=xe^{-tx} ##, and use the hint by @jbriggs444 , it should be straightforward.
 
That all makes sense my issue is how do I get the e^1 in the denominator? because isn't e^(-nt)= 0 a non real answer?
 
Binder12345 said:
That all makes sense my issue is how do I get the e^1 in the denominator? because isn't e^(-nt)= 0 a non real answer?
You must be differentiating the expression wrt n incorrectly. You need the product rule. If still stuck, please post all your working.
 
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This is strange... transiently there was another post by @Binder12345 (I think) with the right answer, then it disappeared.
 
haruspex said:
You must be differentiating the expression wrt n incorrectly. You need the product rule. If still stuck, please post all your working.
Sorry was going to edit and accidentally deleted :


I get:
(1-nt)e^(nt)

set equal to 0 and solve:
(1-nt)e^(nt)=0 -> 1-nt=0 -> n=1/t

I'm missing my e^1 in the denominator though
 
Binder12345 said:
missing my e^1 in the denominator though
Then you are going wrong substituting n=1/t into the original equation.
 
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haruspex said:
Then you are going wrong substituting n=1/t into the original equation.
Yup that is exactly what I was doing wrong! :\

Thank you
 

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