Measuring water pressure differential in a pvc pipe

In summary, the individual is experiencing difficulty with measuring pressure on a PVC water flow system. The system uses a variable height water reservoir to control flow rate and has pressure gauges that measure in PSI with 1/4 PSI increments. However, the gauges are not showing any readings, even when using more sensitive gauges. The individual wonders if the pressure measurement design is flawed or if they should try using more sensitive gauges. They also mention that the pressure gauges are not completely vertical, which may be a contributing factor. The suggested solution is to block the outlet of the pipe to see if a small pressure reading can be obtained, and to consider using strain gauges and a data logger for more accurate and time dependent measurements.
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I'm having problems with our pressure measurements on a pretty basic PVC water flow system. I drew up the general design in paint and attached it so you can have a visual of what I'm talking about. The second attachment is a picture of the actual pipe design.

We're controlling the flow rate into our pipe with variable height of a tall water reservoir at the inlet of the system. The outlet just pours into a bucket. The system is 1/2'' diameter pvc pipe all the way through, but in the middle is a 1/4'' elastic / collapsible tube. with the right flow rate we can induce partial collapse or flow oscillations in the tube which should create a pressure differential across the system. The pressure gauges are in PSI and measure 0-15PSI with 1/4 PSI increments

The problem we have is we cannot get the pressure gauges to show any measurement at all, they just sit on 0 the whole time. We had 100PSI gauges with 5psi increments and we figured those weren't sensitive enough. The lowest ones we could find in a store nearby are the 15PSI gauges we have now.

Do you think the pressure measurement part of our design is flawed? or do you think we should order more sensitive pressure gauges, maybe in mmHg?

Another thing that may be causing the problem is the pressure gauges don't sit 100% vertical, they are maybe ~50degrees up from horizontal due to steric issues, we can adjust the pipe set up if that's the problem.

thank you for the help!
 

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For measuring a static water pressure, 1/4 psi corresponds to about 6 inches of water gauge. So if you block the outlet of your pipe, you should be able to see a small pressure reading on the gauges depending on the height of water in your "tall water reservoir".

But when there is a flow through the system, that static pressure is being "used up" accelerating the water from rest in the reservoir to some velocity in the pipes (review Bernouilli's equation!) and the only dynamic pressure change between your gauges wlll be flow resistance of the pipes, which will be tiny for a low velocity flow in such a short pipe.

The dynamic pressure in the central narrow pipe will be reduced (Bermouilli's equation again!) which is probably why the pipe can collapse - the atmospheric pressure is higher than the water pressure inside.

You might be better putting some strain gauges on the central pipes to measure directly what the pipe is doing. With a data logger (or a computer interface) that will also give you time dependent measurements of oscillations in the flow with much better response than dial gauges would give, even if they were measuring something.
 

1. How do you measure water pressure differential in a PVC pipe?

To measure water pressure differential in a PVC pipe, you will need a pressure gauge specifically designed for use with water pipes. This gauge should be attached to the pipe at two different points, and the difference between the two readings will give you the pressure differential.

2. Can I use any type of pressure gauge to measure water pressure differential in a PVC pipe?

No, it is important to use a pressure gauge specifically designed for use with water pipes. This is because water pipes have different pressure levels and characteristics compared to other pipes, such as gas or air pipes.

3. What is the purpose of measuring water pressure differential in a PVC pipe?

Measuring water pressure differential in a PVC pipe is important for ensuring the proper functioning of the pipe system. It can help identify any leaks or blockages, and also determine if the water pressure is within the acceptable range for the pipe.

4. What factors can affect water pressure differential in a PVC pipe?

Several factors can affect water pressure differential in a PVC pipe, including the diameter and length of the pipe, the rate of flow, and any changes in elevation. Additionally, any kinks or blockages in the pipe can also impact the pressure differential.

5. Is it necessary to regularly measure water pressure differential in a PVC pipe?

It is recommended to regularly measure water pressure differential in a PVC pipe, especially in areas with high water usage. This can help detect any potential issues early on and prevent costly repairs in the future. It is also important to measure the pressure differential after any changes or repairs to the pipe system.

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