Mechanical advantage of a mountain climber (pulley)

In summary, the conversation discusses the mechanical advantage and velocity ratio of a pulley system. It explains that when a person is holding the rope, the mechanical advantage is 2, with 50% of the weight on the rope and the other 50% transmitted to the person. However, if the person holds the rope, they only carry 1/3 of the weight, with 2/3 transmitted to the top left anchor point and 1/3 to their hands. The conversation also mentions the concept of velocity ratio and efficiency, and acknowledges that climbers may not need to understand the intricacies of mechanics unless they want to understand the forces involved in a real situation.
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Hi I have a hard time undersanding the mechanical advantage of this pulley system (in the video below): I understand that when a person is holding you, then the mechanical advantage is 2, because 50% of the weight or Load is on the rope going from the harness to the top left anchor point, and the other 50% is transmitted to the person holding the rope. BUT If you hold the rope, then you only carry 1/3 or the weight. Does this mean that 2/3 of your weight is transmitted from the rope to the Top left anchor point and 1/3 of your weight is transmitted to your hands pulling the rope? I can't really visualize it and would appreciate some help.

 
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It could help if you consider that the work done on the rope by your pulling arm in pulling yourself up is less, per unit gain in height because your shoulder moves up the mountain by 10cm for every 20cm of rope pulled through the top pulley - which means that your arm goes through 30cm of distance, relative to your body. So the Velocity ratio for the climber is 3 where the VR for the other guy is 2.
PS I use the term Velocity Ratio because that is just down to geometry. MA is the ratio between actual Load and Effort, which will be affected by friction and any 'dead weight' in a system. MA needs to be measured for each case. (Strictly) As the lovely Mr Scales taught us: Efficiency = MA/VR and, of course, is always less than unity. But climbers know how to climb mountains and why should they know the intricacies of Mechanics - except if they really want to know the forces likely to involved in a real situation?
 

1. What is mechanical advantage in the context of a mountain climber using a pulley?

Mechanical advantage refers to the amplification of force achieved by using a pulley system. In the case of a mountain climber, a pulley can help reduce the amount of force needed to pull oneself up by distributing the weight across multiple ropes and pulleys.

2. How does a pulley affect the mechanical advantage for a mountain climber?

A pulley increases the mechanical advantage for a mountain climber by distributing the weight of the climber and their gear across multiple ropes and pulleys. This allows the climber to use less force to ascend the mountain, making the task easier and less physically demanding.

3. What is the formula for calculating mechanical advantage in a pulley system?

The formula for calculating mechanical advantage in a pulley system is MA = (Fout) / (Fin), where MA is the mechanical advantage, Fout is the output force (the weight of the climber and their gear), and Fin is the input force (the force applied by the climber).

4. Can a mountain climber achieve a mechanical advantage of more than 1 with a pulley?

Yes, a mountain climber can achieve a mechanical advantage of more than 1 with a pulley. In fact, the more pulleys used in the system, the greater the mechanical advantage. However, there are limitations to how many pulleys can be used before the system becomes too complex and inefficient.

5. Are there any disadvantages to using a pulley for a mountain climber?

While a pulley can greatly increase the mechanical advantage for a mountain climber, there are some potential disadvantages. The use of a pulley system adds extra weight and complexity to the climber's gear, and can also increase the risk of equipment failure or tangling of ropes. Additionally, the use of a pulley may require extra training and practice to ensure safe and effective use.

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