Mesh Analysis Method for Finding Current in a Circuit with Dependent Source

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The discussion focuses on using the mesh analysis method to find the current in a circuit with a dependent source. The user sets up equations based on Kirchhoff's Law, defining mesh currents I1 and I2 for two loops, and introduces a dependent current I_x related to the difference between I1 and I2. There is confusion regarding the relationship between the dependent source and the voltage source, as well as how to properly label the resistors in the circuit diagram. The user expresses uncertainty about deriving the currents in parallel resistors and seeks clarification on the setup and relationships within the circuit. Overall, the conversation highlights the challenges faced when applying mesh analysis in circuits with dependent sources.
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Homework Statement


Find the current in each resistor. (refer to uploaded diagram)

Homework Equations


##Kirchhoff's Law: I_s=I_1 + I_2##
Mesh analysis method

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm calling ##I_s## the total current before and after the current splitting up, and ##I_1## and ##I_2## are the mesh currents. Though I'm not sure if that's how it works.
Anyways, my setup:
I'll call the upper loop mesh 1 and the lower loop mesh 2
We have on dependent source, which is at ##R_3##, so I'll label the current there ##I_x##
$$mesh 1: -V_s+I_1R_1+I_1R_2+R_3(I_1-I_2)=0$$
$$mesh 2: -V_s+I_2R_4+R_3(I_2-I_1)+I_2R_5=0$$
$$Dependent Source: I_x=I_1-I_2$$
$$Kirchhoff's Law: I_s=I_1+I_2$$

I'm not entirely sure from here on. I could substitute each of these equations, but I don't see how it would let me solve for one variable, it would seem just as messy.
 

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For starters, can you label the resistors (in the diagram) R1 R2 etc. to assist following your equations?
Then can you put in an actual symbol for this dependent source. Is that Vs ? If so, how are Vs and Ix related? I don't follow how you get that I1 and I2 add to get Ix. Are I1 and I2 the loop currents?
 
scottdave said:
For starters, can you label the resistors (in the diagram) R1 R2 etc. to assist following your equations?
Sorry about that, I made a lot of clumsy mistakes. I uploaded a proper picture now.

scottdave said:
Then can you put in an actual symbol for this dependent source. Is that Vs ? If so, how are Vs and Ix related?
I defined Vs now as the potential from A to B.
scottdave said:
I don't follow how you get that I1 and I2 add to get Ix. Are I1 and I2 the loop currents?
Again, my bad. I modified it so ##I_x=I_1-I_2##, so it would be the sum of the currents.

If I made any other errors, then it would be form my misunderstanding of the problem/method. I just learned this form a wikipedia page since my professor gave us a very shaky lecture on it.
 
So the way you have defined it, the Vs ia not in either of the loops that you drew. Also look at the junction where Is and I1 meet. What is the current in R2 ?
 
scottdave said:
So the way you have defined it, the Vs ia not in either of the loops that you drew. Also look at the junction where Is and I1 meet. What is the current in R2 ?
I have no clue how I would get that. Circuits in parallel would have different currents, and that's what I'm trying to find using the mesh method.
 
Maybe it will help you if you draw a voltage source and hook it up to A and B to visualize what is going on in the circuit, and how you need to set up the equations. I still don't see where the dependent source is.
 
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