Calculating Microstates and Oscillators in a Collection of Objects

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The discussion revolves around calculating microstates for a system of six one-dimensional oscillators with four quanta of vibrational energy. For part (a), the correct formula to determine the number of microstates is provided, resulting in 126 microstates. In part (b), participants discuss how to estimate the number of objects in a specific microstate (000004), with the expected result being approximately 349.21 objects. The conversation highlights the importance of using the right equations and sharing solutions from external sources. Overall, the thread emphasizes collaborative problem-solving in physics.
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I have no idea where to begin on this problem. but here is what it asks

Consider an object containing 6 one-dimensional oscillators (this object could represent a model of 2 atoms in an Einstein solid). There are 4 quanta of vibrational energy in the object.

(a) How many microstates are there, all with the same energy?


(b) If you examined a collection of 44000 objects of this kind, each containing 4 quanta of energy, about how many of these objects would you expect to find in the microstate 000004?


there probably is just an equation I am not seeing in the book, but i can't find it so if you could give me some help that would be great. in the mean time i will continue looking in the book.
thanks all!
 
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Hey, for part A, use this equation:

number of microstates = (number of quanta + number of oscillators -1)!/(number of quanta!*(number of oscillators-1)! :)
 


thx a lot now I know how to do part a

but still not sure abt part b

there is one formula that post online but I didn't get the right solution

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090413191454AApVs7Y

u can try anyways
 
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Awe, THANKS! It worked for me!

So for part A you should have gotten 126.
Then for part B you should have gotten 349.21

Did you try that?
 


that way on yahoo answers worked for me
 


yeap
now I get it
haha hbt problem 6 part b?
 
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