Millikan oildrop experiment: archimedes' principle

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The discussion focuses on understanding Millikan's oil drop experiment and its relation to Archimedes' principle. The key equation involves calculating the net weight of the oil drop by considering the difference between the gravitational force on the oil and the buoyant force from the air it displaces. The density of the oil, represented by the Greek letter ρ, is crucial for determining the actual gravitational force acting on the drop. The participants clarify that the term p refers to the density of the oil, which is essential for accurate calculations. Overall, the conversation successfully resolves the confusion regarding the roles of density and buoyancy in the experiment.
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Hello!

My physics teacher gave me an assignment to work out (theoretically) how Millikan's oildrop experiment works.

The simple principle of the experiment (as far as I know):
E = \frac{F}{Q}
F = mg
mg = qE \rightarrow q = \frac{mg}{E}

However, after reading a bit on Wikipedia it seems as if there is more involved in order to receive an acceptable value of the particle.

Archimedes' principle:
F = pVg

Volume of a sphere (the oildrop):
V = \frac{4πr^3}{3}

The weight of the drop:
w = \frac{4πr^3}{3}(p - p_{air})g

I don't understand why p is being subtracted by p_air, what density does p refer to?


I'm sorry if I'm ambiguous or outright wrong, I'm not particularly good at physics.
You can read more about the method I'm trying to understand here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_drop_experiment#Method

Thanks in advance!
 
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It is ρ (Greek letter rho) not p.

ρ is a density of the oil.
 
In other words, \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho, the volume of the oil drop times the density of oil, is the actual gravitational force on the oil drop. \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho_{air} is that same volume times the density of oil. Their difference is the "net weight", the actual weight of the oil minus the weight of the air it displaces.
 
Borek said:
It is ρ (Greek letter rho) not p.

ρ is a density of the oil.

HallsofIvy said:
In other words, \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho, the volume of the oil drop times the density of oil, is the actual gravitational force on the oil drop. \frac{4\pi r^3}{3}\rho_{air} is that same volume times the density of oil. Their difference is the "net weight", the actual weight of the oil minus the weight of the air it displaces.

Ah, yes, I understand now! Many thanks to both of you! :smile:
 
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