Minimum and maximum uncertainty values in quantum harmonic oscillator

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The discussion focuses on finding the minimum and maximum uncertainty values of Δx for a quantum harmonic oscillator, using the given wave function. The expectation value <x> is established as zero, leading to the calculation of Δx through integrals of the wave functions. Participants emphasize the need to derive the time-dependent expression for <x^2> to analyze uncertainty over time. The importance of applying the first derivative test to find extrema is highlighted, alongside the reminder to consider the time dependence in the calculations. The conversation underscores the challenge of maintaining clarity in quantum mechanics concepts while navigating complex calculations.
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Homework Statement




I have to find the minimum and maximum values of the uncertainty of \Deltax and specify the times after t=0 when these uncertainties apply.

Homework Equations



The wave function is Ψ(x, 0) = (1/√2) (ψ1(x)+ iψ3(x))

and for all t is Ψ(x, t) = (1/√2) (ψ1(x)exp(-3iwt/2+ iψ3(x)exp(-7iwt/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



the expectation value <x> = 0 ( given in my text )

hence \Deltax= \sqrt{}&lt;x^2&gt;

using the sandwich integral

\int^{\infty}_{-\infty}ψ1\ast(x) x^2 ψ1(x) dx = \frac{3}{2} a^2

\int^{\infty}_{-\infty}\psi3\ast(x) x^2 \psi3(x) dx = \frac{7}{2}a^2

\int^{\infty}_{-\infty}\psi3\ast(x) x^2 \psi1 (x) dx = \int^{\infty}_{-\infty}\psi\ast1(x) x^2 \psi3 dx = \sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}a^2

where a is the length parameter of the oscillator.


Where do I go from here?
 
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You have calculated the probability density function correctly in a previous question you asked. Where has the time dependence disappeared? Secondly how does one find minimum/maximum values of a function generally?
 
I don't know where the time dependence has gone

I'm not sure how to calculate the minimum and maximum values of a function?
 
I've been going at this for so long now my mind is turning mushy
 
If you're following a course on quantum mechanics I'm pretty sure you know how to find the minimum/maximum of a function.

Hint: derivative
 
so i have to do a first derivative test
 
First you need to find the correct time dependent expression for <x^2>. After that you take the derivative with respect to the appropriate variable and solve for said variable.
 
I don't know how to find the time dependent expression for <x^2>
 
In your other thread on this topic you calculated the probability density function for this time dependent wave function. The one with a sine in it and a t etc? You must remember.
This is the correct "sandwich" expression to use. What you've calculated now is the time independent expectation value of x^2.

cleggy said:
that should have been

|\Psi|^2 = [1/2][|\psi1|^2 + |\psi3|^2

+ 2\psi1\psi3sin(2wot)]
 
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