Mixing two different liquids at different temperatures

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When mixing two miscible liquids at different temperatures, both temperature and concentration will initially be uneven but will eventually reach equilibrium. The discussion focuses on whether temperature or concentration equilibrium is achieved first, with the Lewis Number being a critical factor in determining this. The specific scenario involves injecting water into a concentrated salt solution at 250°C, raising questions about whether the water will boil before being absorbed. Modeling and simulations of the mixing process are suggested as potential methods to analyze the situation. Understanding the initial conditions of temperature and concentration is essential for accurate predictions.
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When I pour two different liquids at different temperatures, into the same container, the temperature will be uneven at the start but then will approach equilibrium. Similarly, the concentrations of each liquid will be uneven but when mixing is complete, there will be the same concentrations throughout the liquid. I am wondering whether the temperature will reach equilibrium first or whether the concentrations will reach equilibrium first.
A bit of a tricky one I think.
 
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P.S. the liquids are completely miscible with each other.
 
If you're stirring the system, both will happen very fast. In any case, to ascertain which will happen faster, you need to compare the thermal diffusivity with the molecular diffusivity. The ratio of the thermal diffusivity to the mass diffusivity is called the Lewis Number (a dimensionless group).

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Thanks Chet.

I have quickly looked at the Lewis number and it is certainly relevant to the problem. I will chase this through. The particular problem I am investigating is injecting water into a concentrated salt solution at 250C. I am wanting to find out whether the water will boil before it is absorbed or it will be absorbed before it boils. Any suggestions?

Robert
 
Of course the Lewis number tells you a lot about the problem. It it will also depend on the initial conditions, i.e. What is the temperature of each liquid at the beginning and what is(are) the initial concentration(s).
 
RobertHutchison said:
Thanks Chet.

I have quickly looked at the Lewis number and it is certainly relevant to the problem. I will chase this through. The particular problem I am investigating is injecting water into a concentrated salt solution at 250C. I am wanting to find out whether the water will boil before it is absorbed or it will be absorbed before it boils. Any suggestions?

Robert
Well, I think you can get a handle on it by doing some modeling. But, it would have to include some simulation of the mixing. Maybe you could start by modeling an array of alternate striated slabs of water and salt water. This is how I might begin to approach something like this.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Well, I think you can get a handle on it by doing some modeling. But, it would have to include some simulation of the mixing. Maybe you could start by modeling an array of alternate striated slabs of water and salt water. This is how I might begin to approach something like this.

Chet

Getting any more detailed than that may be... problematic. This problem reeks of turbulent mixing in a jet, which is an active area of modern fluid dynamics research.
 
Thanks Chet and boneh3ad. Your advice has been very helpful.
 
boneh3ad said:
Of course the Lewis number tells you a lot about the problem. It it will also depend on the initial conditions, i.e. What is the temperature of each liquid at the beginning and what is(are) the initial concentration(s).
Off topic, but, I must say, your Dr. Strangelove is a spectacular choice of avatar. I doff my cap to you sir!
 
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