Model Rocket Propulsion: The Power of Hydrogen and Oxygen Combustion

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of hydrogen combustion to propel a model rocket and the efficiency of this method compared to using propane. It is mentioned that a properly designed combustion chamber is necessary for significant thrust and that the fuel must enter at supersonic speed to generate the ram effect, which pulls in air for the combustion process. The efficiency of this method is also questioned and it is noted that this design would not technically be considered a "rocket" engine.
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sid_galt
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If say hydrogen is ejected out of the tail of a model rocket and combusted with O2 of the surrounding air, will that propel the model rocket forward and will the propulsion be sustainable?
 
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It is a fairly common method using propane. Try searching for pressure jet. Hydrogen will combust much faster so some adjustments will probably be needed.

To get any significant thrust you need a properly designed combustion chamber.
 
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Thank you for the reply.

So in effect, the expansion of hot gases is fast enough that it poses no significant barrier to the entry of oxygen in the combustion chamber from the outside air?

For a fairly large combustion chamber, is the process more efficient than say 40-50%?
 
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The fuel must enter the combustion chamber at supersonic speed to pull in the air and generate the ram effect that makes it work. The propane ones I have seen had a very low efficiency.
 
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You are referring to bringing oxygen from the outside, mixing it with hydrogen in a combustion chamber and expelling that?

I see no reason why it wouldn't work. It's not a 'rocket' engine if you use that design, however. 'Rocket' implies both fuel and oxidizer are carried onboard.
 
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Bjørn Bæverfjord said:
The fuel must enter the combustion chamber at supersonic speed to pull in the air and generate the ram effect that makes it work. The propane ones I have seen had a very low efficiency.

what is "ram effect"?
 

1. How does model rocket propulsion work?

Model rocket propulsion works by using a chemical reaction between a fuel and an oxidizer to create thrust. The fuel and oxidizer are ignited by an electric current, creating a controlled explosion that propels the rocket forward.

2. What types of fuel are used in model rocket propulsion?

The most commonly used fuels in model rocket propulsion are solid propellants, such as black powder or composite propellants. These fuels are chosen for their stability and consistent burn rate.

3. Is model rocket propulsion safe?

When used correctly and following safety guidelines, model rocket propulsion is generally considered safe. However, there are still potential hazards, such as fire or explosion, so it is important to follow all instructions and precautions.

4. How do you calculate the thrust of a model rocket?

The thrust of a model rocket can be calculated by multiplying the average burn rate of the propellant by the area of the rocket's nozzle. This will give you the total thrust, which can then be divided by the weight of the rocket to determine the acceleration.

5. What factors can affect the performance of model rocket propulsion?

The performance of model rocket propulsion can be affected by several factors, including the type and quality of the propellant, the design and weight of the rocket, and external factors such as wind or weather. It is important to carefully consider these factors when building and launching a model rocket for optimal performance.

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