Mole balance issue with volume division

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The forum discussion centers on the mole balance in spherical coordinates, specifically the transition from equations involving surface area and volume in the context of differential calculus. Participants question the rationale behind dividing by different expressions, such as ##4\pi r^2 dr## versus ##4\pi \Delta r##, and the implications of factoring out constants like ##4\pi## in the derivation of equations. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding when to simplify expressions in mathematical derivations, particularly in physics and engineering contexts.

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Here we divide the mole balance by the volume ##4*\pi## ##*## r2##*##dr and take lim as dr->0(standard procedure)

1) How exactly he makes the transition from equation from 6 to 7?

Exercise #2(see below please)
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Solution for Problem#2
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2)Why does he divide here by ##4*\pi## ##*Δr##? and not by ##4*\pi## ##*## r2##*##dr ??

Thank you very much in advance.
 
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williamcarter said:

Homework Statement


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Here we divide the mole balance by the volume ##4*\pi## ##*## r2##*##dr and take lim as dr->0(standard procedure)

1) How exactly he makes the transition from equation from 6 to 7?
What is your problem with this?
Exercise #2(see below please)
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Solution for Problem#2
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2)Why does he divide here by ##4*\pi## ##*Δr##? and not by ##4*\pi## ##*## r2##*##dr ??

Thank you very much in advance.
Because the r^2 is inside the parenthesis.
 
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Chestermiller said:
What is your problem with this?
I don't get exactly how he got equation 7 from 6?

Because the r^2 is inside the parenthesis.

In the first problem he didnt subsitute S(r) with 4pi*r2, he let it just S(r), but why in second problem he put it inside the ( ) as 4pi*r2?

I don't get why he divided in 2nd example just by 4pi*Δr, because I can't see the difference in procedures, between the 2 examples.
 
williamcarter said:
In the first problem he didnt subsitute S(r) with 4pi*r2, he let it just S(r), but why in second problem he put it inside the ( ) as 4pi*r2?

I don't get why he divided in 2nd example just by 4pi*Δr, because I can't see the difference in procedures, between the 2 examples.
In Eqn. 7, with ##S=4\pi r^2##, he would have:$$\frac{d(4\pi r^2)N}{dr}=0$$ Factoring out the ##4\pi## leaves: $$\frac{d(r^2N)}{dr}=0$$
 
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Chestermiller said:
In Eqn. 7, with ##S=4\pi r^2##, he would have:$$\frac{d(4\pi r^2)N}{dr}=0$$ Factoring out the ##4\pi## leaves: $$\frac{d(r^2N)}{dr}=0$$
Thank you for your reply !
But why does he factor out the 4*pi? I want to understand the principle
 
williamcarter said:
Thank you for your reply !
But why does he factor out the 4*pi? I want to understand the principle
Are you saying that you don't think it is valid to factor out the 4 pi, or are you asking "why would anyone want to factor out the 4 pi?"
 
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Chestermiller said:
Are you saying that you don't think it is valid to factor out the 4 pi, or are you asking "why would anyone want to factor out the 4 pi?"
I am going for the 2nd choice ''why would anyone want to factor out the 4 pi?'', how to know when to factor it out or when to leave it there?
 
williamcarter said:
I am going for the 2nd choice ''why would anyone want to factor out the 4 pi?'', how to know when to factor it out or when to leave it there?
Factoring out the constant (4 pi) simplifies the equation. It's analogous to what we do when we reduce a fraction to its least common denominator.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Factoring out the constant (4 pi) simplifies the equation. It's analogous to what we do when we reduce a fraction to its least common denominator.
Thank you for your answer, but why in the first example he did not factor the 4pi out?

How to know when to factor it out and when not to?
 
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williamcarter said:
Thank you for your answer, but why in the first example he did not factor the 4pi out?

How to know when to factor it out and when not to?
I have no answer for this. It is not addressing any specific problem, so there is no one right way of doing it. It is up to the taste of the writer.
 

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