Momentum Eigenstate: Meaning of <psi|p|psi>, etc.

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of Dirac notation expressions such as <psi | p | psi>, <psi | p^2 | psi>, and <psi | x | psi>, which represent quantum mechanical operators and their expected values. Participants clarify that <| denotes a row vector, || denotes a matrix, and |> denotes a column vector, emphasizing the mathematical context of these expressions. The momentum operator p and its relation to the wave function ψ are central to the inquiry, with one participant seeking to understand how to derive the mean value of momentum and position from the given wave function. The conversation highlights the need to express the operators correctly in the context of the wave function to calculate expected values. Overall, the thread seeks clarity on applying Dirac notation to quantum mechanics problems.
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I am trying to translate what is meant by:
<psi | p | psi>
<psi|p^2|psi>
<psi | x | psi>
In a mathematicaly context as shown by this link:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110521103632AASz9Hm


Can anyone specify what these mean?

Thanks!
 
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hi imagemania! :smile:

<| denotes a row vector

|| denotes a matrix

|> denotes a column vector :wink:
 
Ok, but I am still not following how he got one for the first question:
<psi | p | psi> = 0

for the integral:
\psi = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} {e}^{-\alpha {(k-{k}_{0})}^{2}}{e}^{ikx} dk

Thanks
 
not following you …

ψ is as given, and p is the momentum operator :confused:
 
Perhaps i'll ignore that post and go back to the fundamental question. From my understanding,
\bar{p}=\frac{hk}{2 \pi}. Knowing \psi is there a way to deduce a better answer to \bar{p} or is it just as I said here?

I am also unsure about the equation for mean value of x.

Thanks :)
 
It's Dirac notation. For an operator A, you can write
\langle \psi | \hat{A} | \psi \rangle = \int \psi^*(x)\hat{A}\psi(x)\,dx
You've been given the wave function. What you need to do next is look up how to express the operators x, p, and p2 appropriately.
 
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