Momentum Problem: Solving A and B's Post-Collision Direction and Speed

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In the collision between two balls A and B, where A is initially at rest and B moves North with speed v, after the collision B moves East at speed v/2. The conservation of momentum equations indicate that A's direction of motion will be in the upper left quadrant, contradicting an initial assumption of the lower left quadrant. The angle of A's motion can be calculated using the momentum equations, leading to a tangent value of -2. While the speed of A can be expressed in terms of the masses of A and B, it cannot be determined without knowing their relative masses. Thus, the discussion emphasizes the importance of momentum conservation in both axes to solve for A's direction and potential speed.
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Two balls A and B having different but unkown masses collide. A is initially at rest and B has a speed v moving North. After collision B has a speed v/2 and moves perpendicular (East) to the original motion. Find the direction of motion of A after collision. Is it possible to determine the speed of A from the information given? Explain.

What I did was I drew out a grid with x and y axis, and I figured that the y-axis would have to cancel out while momentum is conserved in the x-axis, so the motion is going to be somewhere in hte lower left quadrant. But after that, I'm stuck.
 
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Two balls A and B having different but unkown masses collide. A is initially at rest and B has a speed v moving North. After collision B has a speed v/2 and moves perpendicular (East) to the original motion. Find the direction of motion of A after collision. Is it possible to determine the speed of A from the information given? Explain.

What I did was I drew out a grid with x and y axis, and I figured that the y-axis would have to cancel out while momentum is conserved in the x-axis, so the motion is going to be somewhere in hte lower left quadrant. But after that, I'm stuck.
From conservation of momentum:

m_a\vec{v_{af}} + m_b\vec{v_{bf}} = m_b\vec{v_{bi}}

So:

(1) m_av_{af}\cos\theta = -m_bv/2

(2) m_av_{af}\sin\theta = m_bv

Dividing 2 by 1:

\tan\theta = -2

So you know the angle.

If you also assume that there is conservation of energy, you can determine the speed of a in terms of the relative masses:

\frac{1}{2}m_bv^2 = \frac{1}{2}m_bv^2/4 + \frac{1}{2}m_av_a^2

m_av_a^2 = \frac{3}{4}m_bv^2

which gives us:

v_a = \sqrt{\frac{3m_b}{4m_a}}v

But I think that is as far as you can go unless you know the relative masses.

AM

Edit: tan = -2
 
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Two balls A and B having different but unkown masses collide. A is initially at rest and B has a speed v moving North. After collision B has a speed v/2 and moves perpendicular (East) to the original motion. Find the direction of motion of A after collision. Is it possible to determine the speed of A from the information given? Explain.

What I did was I drew out a grid with x and y axis, and I figured that the y-axis would have to cancel out while momentum is conserved in the x-axis, so the motion is going to be somewhere in hte lower left quadrant. But after that, I'm stuck.

You've got it backwards there. Assuming north is positive y-axis, momentum must be conserved vertically, and horizontally it must cancel out. So the new momentum must be in the upper left quadrant.

Does that help at all?
 
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