Mometum and how to find an initial and final momentum

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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial and final momentum of a spacecraft with a given mass, initial speed, and force applied over a specific time. The context includes a spacecraft traveling through space with a thruster firing in the opposite direction of its motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definitions and implications of relative speed, the application of force, and the relationship between force and momentum change. There are attempts to clarify the context and setup of the problem, as well as to derive equations related to momentum.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with some participants providing clarifications and corrections to the equations presented. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between impulse and momentum change, and the discussion is focused on ensuring the correct application of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for clarity regarding the relative speed and the specifics of the force application, as well as the time duration for which the force acts. There is an emphasis on using velocities relative to Earth for the calculations.

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Homework Statement


given:
m=1.0x10^4kg
a relative speed of 1200m/s
t=2.0
F=25kN
pi=?
pf=?



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The Attempt at a Solution



(-25*10^3)(2.0)=(1.0x10^4)(1200)+(1.0*10^4)(mvi)
 
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Someone is going to ask this, so it may as well be me. You should probably give the context for this problem, since it's not clear what is going on from the information you've quoted. What does "a relative speed of 1200 m/sec" mean? This is relative to what?
I take it that a 25,000 N force is being applied to the mass for 2 seconds. It's not clear how to proceed until we know what that velocity is for...
 
a 1.0*10^4kg spacecraft is traveling through space with a speed of 1200 m/s realtive to earth. a thruster fires for 2.0 min, exerting a continuous force of 25kN on the spacecraft in a direction opposite the spacecraft s motion . calculate the initial momentum and the fianl momentum kof the spacecraft .
 
Thank you! So we will be using velocities relative to the Earth for these momenta. You have already found the initial momentum, p_i (what is it?).

What is the relationship between force and change of momentum? You can find the momentum change caused by the thruster, which will let you find the final momentum. (Your equation has the right ideas, but in the wrong sequence...)
 
(-25*10^3)(120)= (1.0*10^4)(mvi)-(1.0x10^4)(1200)
 
You are correct insofar as the impulse, which is equal to the average force times the time during which it is applied, is equal to the change in momentum, p_f - p_i . So the only thing that needs to be corrected is

(-25*10^3 N)(120 sec)= (1.0*10^4 kg)(v_f) - (1.0x10^4 kg)(1200 m/sec) .

Your left-hand side is fine. The right-hand side is the change in momentum. You already have the mass in the first term there, so I have corrected the factor that should be just the final velocity.

Since you are just asked for the initial and final momenta, you really only need to calculate the products. You already have the one for the initial momentum, so you now just need to find the first product on the right-hand side, which is the final momentum.
 

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