Motion equation in the vertical plane along a cylinder

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the equation of motion for an object of mass $m$ sliding frictionlessly along a cylindrical path of radius $R$ in the vertical plane. The equations in the Serret Fernet coordinate system are given, and the question is asked about the validity of the given answer. The answer is confirmed to be a valid equation of motion in polar coordinates.
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AntoineCompagnie
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Homework Statement


How do we find the motion equation and more specifically the motion equation of something with a mass $m$ in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius $R$,

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(Translation: A point of mass $m$ slides frictionless in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius $R$).

The components in each direction unitaries give the following equations in the Serret Fernet referential.

\begin{cases} mr\ddot\theta = mg \sin\theta (1)\\
mg\dot\theta^2=mg\cos\theta - ||F_r|| (2)
\end{cases}

Why do we have the following motion (kinematics?) equation answer?

$$\ddot\theta -\frac{g}{R}\sin\theta = 0$$

Homework Equations



\begin{cases} mr\ddot\theta = mg \sin\theta (1)\\
mg\dot\theta^2=mg\cos\theta - ||F_r|| (2)
\end{cases}

The Attempt at a Solution



I tought we had to find $$\vec a$$, $$\vec v$$ and $$x(t)$$ but it seems to be wrong according to the answer above...
 
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You have not stated what the given question is.
The answer you quote is a simple reformulation of your equation (1), so is certainly true.
 
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My question was at the top: how do we find the motion equation and more specifically the motion equation of something with a mass $m$ in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius R.
 
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AntoineCompagnie said:
My question was at the top: how do we find the motion equation and more specifically the motion equation of something with a mass $m$ in the vertical plane along a cylindrical path of radius R.
Yes, but it is far from clear that is a translation of the question as asked. Are you saying the question is simply "find the equation of motion", and not perhaps "find an equation of motion" or "find the equation of motion in (a particular coordinate system)"?
The given answer is clearly a valid equation of motion in polar coordinates (though it should add r=R for completeness).
 

1. What is the equation for motion in the vertical plane along a cylinder?

The equation for motion in the vertical plane along a cylinder is given by: f = mω²r, where f is the centripetal force, m is the mass of the object, ω is the angular velocity, and r is the radius of the cylinder.

2. How is the motion in the vertical plane along a cylinder different from motion on a flat surface?

In motion along a cylinder, the object is moving in a circular path and therefore experiences a centripetal force, which is directed towards the center of the cylinder. On a flat surface, there is no centripetal force as the object moves in a straight line.

3. How does the radius of the cylinder affect the motion along the vertical plane?

The radius of the cylinder directly affects the magnitude of the centripetal force. A larger radius will result in a smaller centripetal force, while a smaller radius will result in a larger centripetal force.

4. Can an object move vertically along a cylinder without experiencing any force?

No, an object cannot move vertically along a cylinder without experiencing any force. Due to the circular motion, the object must experience a centripetal force directed towards the center of the cylinder.

5. How does the mass of the object affect the motion along the vertical plane?

The mass of the object does not affect the motion along the vertical plane along a cylinder. The equation for motion in this scenario only includes the mass as a constant, and it does not directly affect the magnitude of the centripetal force or the angular velocity.

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