Motion of c.o.m. (kleppner 3.7)

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving two blocks connected by a spring on a frictionless plane. The motion of the center of mass (c.o.m.) is analyzed, particularly during the initial compression and subsequent release of the spring. The first part concludes that the c.o.m. remains stationary until the spring reaches maximum stretch, after which it moves with constant speed. The derived equations for the c.o.m. motion are confirmed, with a focus on eliminating unnecessary variables for clarity. The final expression for the c.o.m. motion is validated, emphasizing the importance of precise calculations in such dynamics problems.
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Homework Statement


A system composed of two blocks of mass ##m_1## and ##m_2## connected by a massless spring with spring constant ##k##. The blocks slide on a frictionless plane. The unstretched length of the spring is ##l##. Initially, ##m_2## is held so that the spring is compressed at ##\frac{l}{2}## and ##m_1## is forced against a stop. ##m_2## is released at ##t=0##.
Find the motion of the center of mass.

Homework Equations


Spring restoration force, center of mass.

The Attempt at a Solution


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First part: mass 1 does not move
Their is a time ##0\le t\le t_m## where the mass ##m_1## will be stuck to the wall, and the external force from the wall on the system will be the spring restoration force, so ##f_{ext} = k(l-x_2)##.
Since ## x_1(t) = 0 ##, the center of mass is ## x_{com}(t) = \frac{m_2}{m_1+m_2} x_2(t) ##.
We must therefore solve the differential equation
## (m_1 + m_2) \ddot x_{com} = f_{ext} \iff m_2 \ddot x_2 = k(l-x_2) ##,
which is not homogenous, so we put ## u = x_2 - l ## and solve ## \ddot u + \frac{k}{m_2} u = \ddot u + \omega^2 u = 0##.
With initial conditions ##u(0) = -\frac{l}{2}## and ##\dot u(0) = 0 ##, we find that:
## x_{com}(t) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2}(1-\frac{\cos(\omega t)}{2})##
Now the maximum stretch before mass 1 moves is attained when ## \omega t_m = \frac{\pi}{2} ## so ## t_m = \frac{\pi}{2} \sqrt{\frac{m_2}{k}}##

Second part: mass 1 moves but there are no more external forces.
Therefore the center of mass must have constant speed for ## t\ge t_m##, so its motion must be :
##x_{com}(t) = x_{com}(t_m) + (t-t_m) v(t_m) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2}(1-\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{t\omega}{2})##

Do you think it is the right solution?
 
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geoffrey159 said:
maximum stretch before mass 1 moves is attained at ##t_m = \frac{\pi}{2} \sqrt{\frac{m_2}{k}}##
You can get to this a bit faster. Up to here, we could treat m1 as fixed to the stop. Going from max compression to zero will be one quarter period.
geoffrey159 said:
##x_{com}(t) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2}(1-\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{t\omega}{2})##
Doesn't seem right. Please post the individual steps.
 
Hello, thanks for answering.
Ok so in details, I get :
##x_{com}(t_m) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2} ##
##v(t_m) = \dot x_{com}(t_m) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2} \frac{\omega}{2}##

So in the end, for ##t\ge t_m## :
## x_{com}(t) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2} (1+(t-t_m)\frac{\omega}{2}) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2}(1-\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{t\omega}{2})##
 
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geoffrey159 said:
## x_{com}(t) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2} (1+(t-t_m)\frac{\omega}{2}) = \frac{m_2l}{m_1+m_2}(1-\frac{\pi}{4}+\frac{t\omega}{2})##
Yes, that looks right, except that you probably should not leave an ##\omega## in the answer (which is why I made the mistake of thinking we had different answers).
 
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